################################################ Subj: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: 10-Oct-00 13:11:01 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Lets look at theings. The Book of Galatians (5:22)says the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. The deeds of the flesh include emnitiy, strife, angry, dissention, factions and envying. I have been around a long time and have met a lot of people. There are always exceptions, but over all there is no doubt this verse is true. Show me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person. Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness. Greg Laurie said once: even if Christianity were not true (and all four of us know it is true), it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial. Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote about 2000 years ago! Amen! Agape, Bill >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Chicken little was right! >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:38:28 -0500 > >Bill, the Bible is planted in truth? > >Ha.. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:31 PM >Subject: Chicken little was right! > > >Unhappiness.....that is the fruit that falls from a tree planted in lies >and >blooming toward hopelessness. > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:12:18 -0700 > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > An impartial judge has ruled: > > Bill 10 > > Liberal 0 > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > > >thought > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > > >ship > > > >in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > > >if > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and > >spend so > > > >much > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I >told > >you > > > >that > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find >it > > >quite > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so > >long. > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > > >easier > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get >a > >few > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > >Mark > > > >The Liberator > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile >at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (rly-yg03.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.3]) by air-yg01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:11:01 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f109.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.109]) by rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:10:15 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:10:14 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:10:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:10:13 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:10:14.0089 (UTC) FILETIME=[19B32B90:01C032F6] ################################################ Subj: Raking leaves in a dog occupied area is stinky work Date: 10-Oct-00 13:13:40 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com If you are unable to summarize I understand. I have had pet dogs my entire life and have shoveled as much dog doo as anyone. I have found it is easier to toss out a little than a ton of it. Thus I prefer you to summarize your best point from Liberator.net instead of burying under tons of >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:40:17 -0500 > >If you are ill-equipped to handle the convincing articles at >www.liberator.net, I'll understand. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:20 PM >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? > > >Why can't you summarize? Are you not equipped to? I have so much frutiful >work to do than to get tricked into going to a porno web site. I told you >I >hate porno. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:09:40 -0500 > > > >Bill, I sing everytime a person takes a comparative religions or >philosophy > >course. Only then do people land up acquiring a deeper understanding of > >what it means to believe. > > > >You have been programmed into thinking that there is such a thing as sin, > >Bill, which drives you to the -- manmade -- gospels. If I am ever driven > >to > >learn from the thoughts, experiences and knowledge of others, I will > >certainly not throw myself back into a time machine by reading an > >antiquated > >source such as the Bible. > > > >= ) > > > >Can you try to respond to the web addresses I sent to you or will you >dodge > >them again? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 3:43 PM > >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? > > > > > >Somebody is "Grumpy"... Come on it is ok because Jesus loves you!!! Sing > >along and smile!!! I forgive you brother! All your sins can be washed > >away > >when you give your sins to the Lord! > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:41 PM > >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? > > > > > >Bill Bequette, you wrote: > > > >"Mark no need to be upset. When your upset just ask for God to step in >and > >you will be ok!" > > > >Should I ask Odin, Zeus or Ra for help too? > > > >= ) > > > >Who's upset? This is comical. > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 2:59 PM > >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? > > > > > >You see Bill, when you are losing an argument you call the other person a > >name like a freak. But if you are winning the argument it does not >bother > >you. > > > >I accept your concession Mark. > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:35:16 -0500 > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Life is 10% situations and 90% how you deal with it. Many people >choose > > >to > > >be miserable." > > > > > >Many people choose to believe in fairytales as a means of escapism: >enter > > >religion. > > > > > >"One of my mottos Bill, is listen to miserable and grumpy people, but > >don't > > >let them make you miserable and grumpy." > > > > > >One of my favorite past-times is to listen to Jesus freaks because >their > > >non-logic is a constant joke. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-ye01.mx.aol.com (rly-ye01.mail.aol.com [172.18.151.198]) by air-ye02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:13:40 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f188.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.188]) by rly-ye01.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:13:05 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:13:04 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:13:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: Raking leaves in a dog occupied area is stinky work Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:13:04 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:13:04.0808 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F74D280:01C032F6] ################################################ Subj: Roulette is a french word Date: 10-Oct-00 13:19:31 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: billbeq@mediaone.net, DWise1@aol.com CC: editor@liberator.net But they would have to input where the dude released the ball. For example they spin that wheel fast, then the guy rolls the ball in the opposite direction. Does he instantly type in "dude released ball near the 22 red?" I guess that could increase your odds after a while. >From: "Bill Bequette" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Vanna White? Is she the anti Christ? >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:35:13 -0700 > >Actually this was in a very interesting article in Scientific American >about 9 years ago. The guys put a microprocessor in the shoe of the guy >who betted at the roulette wheel. He would push buttons on the processor >that told it the position of the ball before spin, etc. Then they would >enter in about 100 spins. Based on the table being slightly off >horizontal, the ball characteristics, etc. they could guess just barely >more often than bettors on what numbers would win. So they had a >statistical advantage and started to win. Until the casino security caught >them and they were forever bannished from the casinos!!! Great story and >true! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: DWise1@aol.com > Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:24 PM > Subject: Vanna White? Is she the anti Christ? > > > What poopy heads trying to tape the roulette wheel in that way. That is > almost as goofy as thinking protein synthesis is the result of >fortuitious > chemistry rather than a brilliant design by a Great God. > > > >From: DWise1@aol.com > >To: > >CC: , , > >Subject: Re: Zebra Stripes from Mutations? > >Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:28:56 EDT > > > > >>I think a smart person could cheat at wheel of fortune on how hard >they > >spin the wheel.....don't you agree?<< > > > >Did you see "Nerds 2.0.1" on PBS? It dealt mainly with the creation of >the > >Internet. One of the interviewees told of how he and some of his >fellow > >engineers tried to work out the physics of a roulette wheel, with the >hope > >of discovering a method of winning. But they needed to gather some >data in > >the form of a tape recording of the ball in action, so he and a friend >went > >to a casino to gather that data. The plan was for him to put a tape > >recorder under his jacket and hide the microphone in a fake arm cast so > >that he would record his friend playing the wheel. Unfortunately, his > >friend started winning and the pit boss became suspicious of this cast >that > >had a wire running to it. Killed that research project in a hurry. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-za01.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by air-za02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:19:31 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f205.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.205]) by rly-za01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:18:32 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:18:31 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:18:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: billbeq@mediaone.net, DWise1@aol.com Cc: editor@liberator.net Subject: Roulette is a french word Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:18:31 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:18:31.0350 (UTC) FILETIME=[42172D60:01C032F7] ################################################ Subj: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Date: 10-Oct-00 13:20:07 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: billbeq@mediaone.net, DWise1@aol.com CC: editor@liberator.net Buddy, they are too chicken to answer your sincere inquiry. trust me! >From: "Bill Bequette" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:38:40 -0700 > >Mr Wise what is your best explanation for the origin of life? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: DWise1@aol.com > Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > > You insulted my wife's faith in Christ and gave that as your reaosn for >not > going to Denny's. > > mr Wise.....give me your best explanation for the origin of life. > > > >From: DWise1@aol.com > >To: > >CC: , , > >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > >Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:30:14 EDT > > > > > > >>I love the intellectual thrust and parry with those of different > >opinions, I have no problem with that.....it is the greatest catalyst > >toward futher research....being challenged....<< > > > >Since when, Bill M? Both Mark and I have observed you in action since > >1996. We have watched you do everything you can to avoid discussion, > >including your favorite trick of laying down rabbit trails. > > > >But then we have not observed you with somebody who doesn't know what >is > >going on. I guess that would make a difference, because you only want >to > >be "challenged" when you can tap-dance rings around the other guy. But > >bring in somebody who knows something about creation science and you >duck > >and run. > > > > >>I just have a hard time with incessant insults and whining from >people > >who will remain nameless.<< > > > >Well, Bill M, if you would stop obstructing the search for truth then > >things would run a whole lot smoother. If only you weren't so afraid >of > >the truth. > > > >For the THIRTIETH TIME, Bill M, substantiate your accusations against >me! > >Tell us what you think I had said! > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:20:07 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f62.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.62]) by rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:19:17 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:19:09 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:19:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: billbeq@mediaone.net, DWise1@aol.com Cc: editor@liberator.net Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:19:09 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:19:09.0333 (UTC) FILETIME=[58BAEC50:01C032F7] ################################################ Subj: Re: No Grand Slam Breakfast Date: 10-Oct-00 13:22:23 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: billbeq@mediaone.net, DWise1@aol.com CC: editor@liberator.net To be honest I think Dave Wise feels bad about trashing her. I think he is an all right guy in that regard. >From: "Bill Bequette" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: No Grand Slam Breakfast >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:40:37 -0700 > >30 times.... Gee whiz and slamming your wonderful wife. Now he has >insulted your good name and family. Comments? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > Cc: editor@liberator.net > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:32 PM > Subject: No Grand Slam Breakfast > > > I answered him 30 times, he trashed my wife for being Christian and said >he > did not want dinner because of our faith. I was hurt badly by this >insult. > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: , > >CC: , > >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:44:32 -0700 > > > >This is a fair question. Bill what are your viewpoints or have you >already > >told them? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: DWise1@aol.com > > To: billyjack1@hotmail.com > > Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net ; DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 7:30 AM > > Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > > > > > > > >>I love the intellectual thrust and parry with those of different > >opinions, I have no problem with that.....it is the greatest catalyst > >toward futher research....being challenged....<< > > > > Since when, Bill M? Both Mark and I have observed you in action >since > >1996. We have watched you do everything you can to avoid discussion, > >including your favorite trick of laying down rabbit trails. > > > > But then we have not observed you with somebody who doesn't know >what is > >going on. I guess that would make a difference, because you only want >to > >be "challenged" when you can tap-dance rings around the other guy. But > >bring in somebody who knows something about creation science and you >duck > >and run. > > > > >>I just have a hard time with incessant insults and whining from >people > >who will remain nameless.<< > > > > Well, Bill M, if you would stop obstructing the search for truth >then > >things would run a whole lot smoother. If only you weren't so afraid >of > >the truth. > > > > For the THIRTIETH TIME, Bill M, substantiate your accusations >against > >me! Tell us what you think I had said! > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-za03.mx.aol.com (rly-za03.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.99]) by air-za04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:22:23 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f238.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.238]) by rly-za03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:21:05 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:20:59 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:20:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: billbeq@mediaone.net, DWise1@aol.com Cc: editor@liberator.net Subject: Re: No Grand Slam Breakfast Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:20:59 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:20:59.0914 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AA43EA0:01C032F7] ################################################ Subj: Cain's wife Date: 10-Oct-00 13:24:47 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net CC: billbeq@mediaone.net, DWise1@aol.com The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" >CC: , >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh05.mx.aol.com (rly-yh05.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.37]) by air-yh03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:24:47 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f146.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.146]) by rly-yh05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:24:36 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:24:32 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:24:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net, DWise1@aol.com Subject: Cain's wife Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:24:32 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:24:32.0921 (UTC) FILETIME=[199A8890:01C032F8] ################################################ Subj: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: 10-Oct-00 13:26:41 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > > >in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > > >much > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told >you > > >that > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > >quite > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > >easier > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a >few > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-za02.mx.aol.com (rly-za02.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.98]) by air-za03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:26:41 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f94.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.94]) by rly-za02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:26:18 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:26:17 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:26:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:26:17 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:26:17.0361 (UTC) FILETIME=[57DAD010:01C032F8] ################################################ Subj: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 13:29:29 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side. So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (rly-zd01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.225]) by air-zd01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:29:28 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f223.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.223]) by rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:28:45 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:28:45 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:28:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: Jock itch Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:28:44 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:28:45.0116 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFEC6FC0:01C032F8] ################################################ Subj: From goo to you by way of the zoo Date: 10-Oct-00 13:31:01 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Notice how they avoid your simple origin of life question Bill? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:09:05 -0500 > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. It's >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan on >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange character >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other >atheists. God Bless you! >Bill > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > >>From: "Mark" > >>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>CC: > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >> > >>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >> > >>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>again. > >>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>simply > >>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >> > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:31:01 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f234.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.234]) by rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:30:32 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:30:23 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:30:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: From goo to you by way of the zoo Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:30:22 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:30:23.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[EA4DCF60:01C032F8] ################################################ Subj: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: 10-Oct-00 13:31:35 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), editor@liberator.net CC: DWise1@aol.com I have to agree with Bill. My hat is off to you guys! Watching embittered skeptics get nasty with me and my fellow brethren is great. It confirms everything the Bible says about atheists. Right on guys! Thanks for confirming my faith :) John 3:16 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: We know for whom the Bell tolls Lets look at theings. The Book of Galatians (5:22)says the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. The deeds of the flesh include emnitiy, strife, angry, dissention, factions and envying. I have been around a long time and have met a lot of people. There are always exceptions, but over all there is no doubt this verse is true. Show me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person. Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness. Greg Laurie said once: even if Christianity were not true (and all four of us know it is true), it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial. Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote about 2000 years ago! Amen! Agape, Bill >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Chicken little was right! >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:38:28 -0500 > >Bill, the Bible is planted in truth? > >Ha.. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:31 PM >Subject: Chicken little was right! > > >Unhappiness.....that is the fruit that falls from a tree planted in lies >and >blooming toward hopelessness. > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:12:18 -0700 > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > An impartial judge has ruled: > > Bill 10 > > Liberal 0 > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > > >thought > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > > >ship > > > >in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > > >if > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and > >spend so > > > >much > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I >told > >you > > > >that > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find >it > > >quite > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so > >long. > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > > >easier > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get >a > >few > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > >Mark > > > >The Liberator > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile >at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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I have to agree with Bill.  My hat is off to you guys!  Watching embittered skeptics get nasty with me and my fellow brethren is great.  It confirms everything the Bible says about atheists.  Right on guys!  Thanks for confirming my faith :)  John 3:16
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:10 PM
Subject: We know for whom the Bell tolls
Lets look at theings. The Book of Galatians (5:22)says the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. The deeds of the flesh include emnitiy, strife, angry, dissention, factions and envying. I have been around a long time and have met a lot of people.  There are always exceptions, but over all there is no doubt this verse is true.  Show me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person.  Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness. Greg Laurie said once:  even if Christianity were not true (and all four of us know it is true), it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial. Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote about 2000 years ago!  Amen! Agape, Bill >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Chicken little was right! >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:38:28 -0500 > >Bill, the Bible is planted in truth? > >Ha.. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >To: <billbeq@mediaone.net>; <editor@liberator.net> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:31 PM >Subject: Chicken little was right! > > >Unhappiness.....that is the fruit that falls from a tree planted in lies >and >blooming toward hopelessness. > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:12:18 -0700 > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   From: Bill Morgan > >   To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > >   An impartial judge has ruled: > >   Bill 10 > >   Liberal 0 > > > > > >   >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > >   >ship in the first place? > >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > >   > > >   >10 points to Bill > >   >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   >   From: Bill Morgan > >   >   To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >   >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   >   Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > >   >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > >   >a ship in the first place? > >   > > >   > > >   >   Mark, I apologized.  Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >   >thought > >   >   you believed it was true just unappealling. > >   > > >   > > >   >   >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >   >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, ><billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >   >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > >   >ship > >   >   >in the first place? > >   >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > >   >   > > >   >   >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >   >   > > >   >   >"Mark:  why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > >   >if > >   >   >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and > >spend so > >   >   >much > >   >   >time angry about it?" > >   >   > > >   >   >Bill, I didn't ignore it.  You must have missed the letter.  I >told > >you > >   >   >that > >   >   >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction.  In fact, I find >it > >   >quite > >   >   >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so > >long. > >   >   > > >   >   >= ) > >   >   > > >   >   >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories.  I guess it's > >   >easier > >   >   >than believing reality.  That's their call.  It's my right to get >a > >few > >   >   >chuckles out of it. > >   >   > > >   >   >Mark > >   >   >The Liberator > >   >   >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >   >   >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >   >   > > >   > > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >   >http://www.hotmail.com. > >   > > >   >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile >at > >   >   http://profiles.msn.com. > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >   http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.34]) by air-yc05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:31:35 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:31:01 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA13049; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <006d01c032f8$8712ac40$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:27:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006A_01C032BD.D94BB8C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: 10-Oct-00 13:34:10 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his anger and frustration. Something in his life did not work out as planned (welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist at God. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining. Once >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from all >the religions and philosophies that are available. > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > >= ) > >Thinking for the both of us, > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >Mark, >You would be a great Christian. With all the energy you spend talking >about >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in >convalescent homes. God Bless you, Bill > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists. God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >>help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >>itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > >>P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >>admitting defeat so easily? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Bequette > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >>Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Morgan > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >> > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >>Life Mist da Mark. > >> > >> > >>>From: "Mark" > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>>CC: > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >>> > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >>> > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >>> > >>>= ) > >>> > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>>again. > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>>simply > >>>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >>> > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >>> > >>>Mark > >>>The Liberator > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >>> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >> > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-ye01.mx.aol.com (rly-ye01.mail.aol.com [172.18.151.198]) by air-ye04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:34:10 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f105.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.105]) by rly-ye01.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:33:26 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:33:25 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:33:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:33:25 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:33:25.0975 (UTC) FILETIME=[57541E70:01C032F9] ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 10-Oct-00 13:34:57 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any. God made a nice clean defect free genetic code! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects. That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb03.mx.aol.com (rly-zb03.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.3]) by air-zb05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:34:57 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f57.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.57]) by rly-zb03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:34:34 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:34:33 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:34:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:34:33 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:34:33.0513 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F959990:01C032F9] ################################################ Subj: Re: Roulette is a french word Date: 10-Oct-00 13:35:31 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), DWise1@aol.com CC: editor@liberator.net My memory is a little rusty since I read the article quite some time ago. But the article was very explicit on the method. It was very cool. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Cc: editor@liberator.net Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:18 PM Subject: Roulette is a french word But they would have to input where the dude released the ball. For example they spin that wheel fast, then the guy rolls the ball in the opposite direction. Does he instantly type in "dude released ball near the 22 red?" I guess that could increase your odds after a while. >From: "Bill Bequette" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Vanna White? Is she the anti Christ? >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:35:13 -0700 > >Actually this was in a very interesting article in Scientific American >about 9 years ago. The guys put a microprocessor in the shoe of the guy >who betted at the roulette wheel. He would push buttons on the processor >that told it the position of the ball before spin, etc. Then they would >enter in about 100 spins. Based on the table being slightly off >horizontal, the ball characteristics, etc. they could guess just barely >more often than bettors on what numbers would win. So they had a >statistical advantage and started to win. Until the casino security caught >them and they were forever bannished from the casinos!!! Great story and >true! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: DWise1@aol.com > Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:24 PM > Subject: Vanna White? Is she the anti Christ? > > > What poopy heads trying to tape the roulette wheel in that way. That is > almost as goofy as thinking protein synthesis is the result of >fortuitious > chemistry rather than a brilliant design by a Great God. > > > >From: DWise1@aol.com > >To: > >CC: , , > >Subject: Re: Zebra Stripes from Mutations? > >Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:28:56 EDT > > > > >>I think a smart person could cheat at wheel of fortune on how hard >they > >spin the wheel.....don't you agree?<< > > > >Did you see "Nerds 2.0.1" on PBS? It dealt mainly with the creation of >the > >Internet. One of the interviewees told of how he and some of his >fellow > >engineers tried to work out the physics of a roulette wheel, with the >hope > >of discovering a method of winning. But they needed to gather some >data in > >the form of a tape recording of the ball in action, so he and a friend >went > >to a casino to gather that data. The plan was for him to put a tape > >recorder under his jacket and hide the microphone in a fake arm cast so > >that he would record his friend playing the wheel. Unfortunately, his > >friend started winning and the pit boss became suspicious of this cast >that > >had a wire running to it. Killed that research project in a hurry. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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My memory is a little rusty since I read the article quite some time ago.  But the article was very explicit on the method.  It was very cool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com
Cc: editor@liberator.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:18 PM
Subject: Roulette is a french word
But they would have to input where the dude released the ball.  For example they spin that wheel fast, then the guy rolls the ball in the opposite direction.  Does he instantly type in "dude released ball near the 22 red?" I guess that could increase your odds after a while. >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <DWise1@aol.com> >CC: <editor@liberator.net> >Subject: Re: Vanna White?  Is she the anti Christ? >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:35:13 -0700 > >Actually this was in a very interesting article in Scientific American >about 9 years ago.  The guys put a microprocessor in the shoe of the guy >who betted at the roulette wheel.  He would push buttons on the processor >that told it the position of the ball before spin, etc.  Then they would >enter in about 100 spins.  Based on the table being slightly off >horizontal, the ball characteristics, etc. they could guess just barely >more often than bettors on what numbers would win.  So they had a >statistical advantage and started to win.  Until the casino security caught >them and they were forever bannished from the casinos!!!  Great story and >true! >   ----- Original Message ----- >   From: Bill Morgan >   To: DWise1@aol.com >   Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >   Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:24 PM >   Subject: Vanna White? Is she the anti Christ? > > >   What poopy heads trying to tape the roulette wheel in that way.  That is >   almost as goofy as thinking protein synthesis is the result of >fortuitious >   chemistry rather than a brilliant design by a Great God. > > >   >From: DWise1@aol.com >   >To: <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >   >CC: <billbeq@mediaone.net>, <editor@liberator.net>, <DWise1@aol.com> >   >Subject: Re: Zebra Stripes from Mutations? >   >Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:28:56 EDT >   > >   > >>I think a smart person could cheat at wheel of fortune on how hard >they >   >spin the wheel.....don't you agree?<< >   > >   >Did you see "Nerds 2.0.1" on PBS?  It dealt mainly with the creation of >the >   >Internet.  One of the interviewees told of how he and some of his >fellow >   >engineers tried to work out the physics of a roulette wheel, with the >hope >   >of discovering a method of winning.  But they needed to gather some >data in >   >the form of a tape recording of the ball in action, so he and a friend >went >   >to a casino to gather that data.  The plan was for him to put a tape >   >recorder under his jacket and hide the microphone in a fake arm cast so >   >that he would record his friend playing the wheel.  Unfortunately, his >   >friend started winning and the pit boss became suspicious of this cast >that >   >had a wire running to it.  Killed that research project in a hurry. >   > > >   >_________________________________________________________________________ >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >   http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:35:31 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:34:36 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA14986; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <008501c032f9$04d223e0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Roulette is a french word Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:31:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0081_01C032BE.56D134A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: No Grand Slam Breakfast Date: 10-Oct-00 13:36:26 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), DWise1@aol.com CC: editor@liberator.net Hey your all above the average chimp in terms of IQ. Most people sweat at even thinking about using a computer or even thinking about evol vs creat let alone arguing about it :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Cc: editor@liberator.net Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:20 PM Subject: Re: No Grand Slam Breakfast To be honest I think Dave Wise feels bad about trashing her. I think he is an all right guy in that regard. >From: "Bill Bequette" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: No Grand Slam Breakfast >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:40:37 -0700 > >30 times.... Gee whiz and slamming your wonderful wife. Now he has >insulted your good name and family. Comments? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > Cc: editor@liberator.net > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:32 PM > Subject: No Grand Slam Breakfast > > > I answered him 30 times, he trashed my wife for being Christian and said >he > did not want dinner because of our faith. I was hurt badly by this >insult. > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: , > >CC: , > >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:44:32 -0700 > > > >This is a fair question. Bill what are your viewpoints or have you >already > >told them? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: DWise1@aol.com > > To: billyjack1@hotmail.com > > Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net ; DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 7:30 AM > > Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > > > > > > > >>I love the intellectual thrust and parry with those of different > >opinions, I have no problem with that.....it is the greatest catalyst > >toward futher research....being challenged....<< > > > > Since when, Bill M? Both Mark and I have observed you in action >since > >1996. We have watched you do everything you can to avoid discussion, > >including your favorite trick of laying down rabbit trails. > > > > But then we have not observed you with somebody who doesn't know >what is > >going on. I guess that would make a difference, because you only want >to > >be "challenged" when you can tap-dance rings around the other guy. But > >bring in somebody who knows something about creation science and you >duck > >and run. > > > > >>I just have a hard time with incessant insults and whining from >people > >who will remain nameless.<< > > > > Well, Bill M, if you would stop obstructing the search for truth >then > >things would run a whole lot smoother. If only you weren't so afraid >of > >the truth. > > > > For the THIRTIETH TIME, Bill M, substantiate your accusations >against > >me! Tell us what you think I had said! > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Hey your all above the average chimp in terms of IQ.  Most people sweat at even thinking about using a computer or even thinking about evol vs creat let alone arguing about it :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com
Cc: editor@liberator.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: No Grand Slam Breakfast
To be honest I think Dave Wise feels bad about trashing her.  I think he is an all right guy in that regard. >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <DWise1@aol.com> >CC: <editor@liberator.net> >Subject: Re: No Grand Slam Breakfast >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:40:37 -0700 > >30 times.... Gee whiz and slamming your wonderful wife.  Now he has >insulted your good name and family.  Comments? >   ----- Original Message ----- >   From: Bill Morgan >   To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com >   Cc: editor@liberator.net >   Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:32 PM >   Subject: No Grand Slam Breakfast > > >   I answered him 30 times, he trashed my wife for being Christian and said >he >   did not want dinner because of our faith.  I was hurt badly by this >insult. > > >   >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> >   >To: <DWise1@aol.com>, <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >   >CC: <editor@liberator.net>, <DWise1@aol.com> >   >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >   >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:44:32 -0700 >   > >   >This is a fair question.  Bill what are your viewpoints or have you >already >   >told them? >   >   ----- Original Message ----- >   >   From: DWise1@aol.com >   >   To: billyjack1@hotmail.com >   >   Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net ; DWise1@aol.com >   >   Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 7:30 AM >   >   Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >   > >   > >   > >   >   >>I love the intellectual thrust and parry with those of different >   >opinions, I have no problem with that.....it is the greatest catalyst >   >toward futher research....being challenged....<< >   > >   >   Since when, Bill M?  Both Mark and I have observed you in action >since >   >1996.  We have watched you do everything you can to avoid discussion, >   >including your favorite trick of laying down rabbit trails. >   > >   >   But then we have not observed you with somebody who doesn't know >what is >   >going on.  I guess that would make a difference, because you only want >to >   >be "challenged" when you can tap-dance rings around the other guy.  But >   >bring in somebody who knows something about creation science and you >duck >   >and run. >   > >   >   >>I just have a hard time with incessant insults and whining from >people >   >who will remain nameless.<< >   > >   >   Well, Bill M, if you would stop obstructing the search for truth >then >   >things would run a whole lot smoother.  If only you weren't so afraid >of >   >the truth. >   > >   >   For the THIRTIETH TIME, Bill M, substantiate your accusations >against >   >me!  Tell us what you think I had said! >   > > >   >_________________________________________________________________________ >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >   http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-ye04.mx.aol.com (rly-ye04.mail.aol.com [172.18.151.201]) by air-ye03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:36:26 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-ye04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:35:58 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA15973; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <008d01c032f9$37a24200$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: No Grand Slam Breakfast Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:32:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008A_01C032BE.8A586DC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Read my lips: I don't save my emails Date: 10-Oct-00 13:37:23 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: DWise1@aol.com CC: editor@liberator.net, plasma@worldnet.att.net I dont save my e mails. But I accept your apology. Based upon your desire to make atonement for even the hint of trashing my wife, I forgive you, the issue is resolved. >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: >CC: , , >Subject: Re: Bretheren and Fathers, hear my defense which I now offer to >you >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:36:31 EDT > > >>Obstruct ALL attempts to resolve? > >Um cscuse me sir, I invite you to dinner and a party and I am not tring to >resotore our friendship? > >Delusional............<< > >Excuse me, Bill M, but what "friendship" are you talking about? You cannot >restore something which never existed in the first place. Talk about >somebody being delusional! > >What is wrong with you? Do you really have no idea whatsoever what has >been happening here for the past TEN WEEKS? Do I have to explain it to you >YET AGAIN? > >Bill M, you made several accusations against me and we need to get that >resolved. You have accused me of several serious transgressions of which I >have no knowledge and which I have been unable to find anywhere in the >written record of our exchanges. I listed the first accusations and you >have verified that they are indeed the accusations which you have made >against me. Here they are again, Bill Morgan, some of the accusations you >have made against me: > >1. Having conducted "bigoted attacks on [you] and [your] wife" > >2. Thinking you are "some evil wicked person out to destroy society". > >3. Thinking you are "wacked for beleiving in God". > >4. "[P]ersonally insulting [you] on the level of a name calling 2nd >grader." > >5. "[I]nsulting [your] wife and [you]. > >6. That my wife and I had labelled you and your wife as evil. > >7. Calling you "very nasty names." > >8. That I had told you "what [my] wife thought of those who beleive in >Gid". > >9. That I would think your and your wife "are evil and wicked, the world's >most >sinister people". > >10. That I refuse to meet you because of your beliefs. > >11. That I sent electronically "many nasty words that were anti religious". > > >My immediate response to these accusations was to try to get the situation >resolved. I have repeatedly asked you to substantiate your accusations >against me. I have repeatedly informed you that in order to resolve this >situation I needed to know WHAT YOU THINK I HAD WRITTEN SO THAT WE COULD >LOCATE THE MESSAGES IN QUESTION AND EXAMINE WHAT THEY ACTUALLY SAY. I have >told you that repeatedly and you have repeatedly refused to provide that >much needed information. I have tried to locate some of them without that >necessary information, but have not been able to find any match. And as >for most of your accusations, I HAVE NO IDEA AT ALL WHAT YOU ARE TALKING >ABOUT! And the most that you have had to offer has just been to repeat the >accusations without providing any of the information needed to identify the >original messages in order to resolve the situation. > >Bill M, the situation is that we need to determine the truth about your >accusations against me. Resolution of this situation requires that we >examine the messages upon which you purport to base your accusations. >This requires that you inform us of the wording that you "remember" me >having used so that we can identify the messages in question. > >Bill M, by your willful and persistent refusal to provide that information >you have indeed been obstructing ALL our attempts to resolve the situation >and you have been doing so for the past TEN WEEKS! > >The reasonable interpretation of your actions would be that you are afraid >that we will all discover the truth, that your accusations against me are >groundless and without substance. And the wilfullness with which you are >preventing our examination of the facts indicates that you know full well >that your accusations are false. If you really believed that your >accusations were true, then you would have no reason to obstruct our search >for the truth. > >Bump the count to show that I have requested this information from you for >the THIRTY-SECOND TIME now. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb05.mx.aol.com (rly-zb05.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.5]) by air-zb05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:37:23 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f208.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.208]) by rly-zb05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:36:58 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:36:58 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:36:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: DWise1@aol.com Cc: editor@liberator.net, plasma@worldnet.att.net Subject: Read my lips: I don't save my emails Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:36:57 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:36:58.0049 (UTC) FILETIME=[D5BC0B10:01C032F9] ################################################ Subj: read my eyes: I no save a me e mails Date: 10-Oct-00 13:38:43 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: DWise1@aol.com CC: billbeq@mediaone.net, editor@liberator.net >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: >CC: , , >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:40:46 EDT > > >>Hey, maybe you and Mr Wise and Mr Liberal can become >friends....Wise...liberal....let Bill cut your hair for free as a token of >friendship!<< > >Bill M, a friend does not tell slanderous lies about his friend and then >refuse to support those lies in any manner while obstructing all attempts >by his friend to resolve the matter. That is not what a friend does. > >Bill M, don't you remember what your grandmother had told you? That to be >loved you must be lovable? If you really want friendship, then why do you >repeatedly take actions to make yourself hated and despised? That doesn't >make any sense, unless your talk of friendship is insincere, meant only for >show in order to mask your true feelings and intentions. > >If you really wanted to offer a "token of friendship", then you would cease >your stubborn obstruction of our investigation and substantiate your >accusations against me by telling us what you believe I had written. This >is the THIRTY-FIRST time I am requesting that information! > > >Bill B, if you do wish to offer a token of friendship, then you would try >to impress upon your friend, Bill M, the importance of serving truth (which >most Christians claim to do, including Bill M, but which neither of you two >show any inclination to actually do) and urge him to provide the >information that we need to resolve this matter. > >In the meantime, Bill M and Bill B, do please bear in mind that you have >been witnessing all this time. Do I need to describe to you what your >witness tells us about Christians? > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (rly-zd01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.225]) by air-zd04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:38:43 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f188.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.188]) by rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:38:13 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:38:09 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:38:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: DWise1@aol.com Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net, editor@liberator.net Subject: read my eyes: I no save a me e mails Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:38:09 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:38:09.0768 (UTC) FILETIME=[007B7E80:01C032FA] ################################################ Subj: Another reason Christianity is true: Our music is the best Date: 10-Oct-00 13:40:25 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: DWise1@aol.com CC: billbeq@mediaone.net, editor@liberator.net >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: >CC: , , >Subject: Re: Bretheren and Fathers, hear my defense which I now offer to >you >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:38:31 EDT > > >>I am so happy to hear that at lease you used to celebrate the birth of >our Savior, jesus christ!<< > >What are you talking about? Oh, you mean Saturnalia and Sol Invictus? >It's the celebration of the Winter Solstice which got taken over by some >young upstart cult you may have heard of. Almost every Christmas symbol >and custom was taken from pagan traditions. The Christmas tree, yule log, >wassal, holly and misteltoe (the Resurrection God, Baldar, was killed by >the misteltoe), Santa Claus (AKA "Wotan"), etc. Even the story of the >Nativity seems to have been lifted from the pagan traditions. All good >old-fashioned Pagan traditions, absorbed and assimilated by the Christians. > >Actually, it's quite interesting how early Christianity absorbed and >assimilated the indiginous pagan religions as it spread. They did it again >when they conquered the New World. I wonder if Roddenberry (or Bergman -- >I'm not sure who was in charge at that point) had those earlier Christian >missionaries in mind when he came up with the Borg. > >Here's an interesting trivia question. The date of Christmas is based on >the date of the Winter Solstice. But if the Winter Solstice is on the >21st, then why is Christmas on the 25th? There's nothing esoteric nor >biblical about the answer. > > > >>Give me that old time religion!<< > >Oh, I love that song! I'd like to share with you an extremely few of the >well-over 800 verses. Most of the rest of the verses can be found at "The >Official, Accept no Cheap Substitutes, Real Old Time Religion Page" at >http://www.locksley.com/vintage/realotr.htm : > >(Chorus): Give me that real old time religion (3X) > It's good enough for me! > >AGNOSTIC/ATHEIST CHORUS: Gimme NO kind-a religion > Gimme NO kind-a religion > Gimme NO kind-a religion > It simply ain't for me! > >Lots of folks are into God >And I've often thought it odd >Do they love Him for His bod'? >Or is it ideology? > >I don't care about Jehover >Soon his office term is over >I would sooner worship Rover >'Cause he's good enough for me! >[Bill M, I included this one in honor of the recent "What's 'dog' spelled >backwards?" subject line] > >It's the Fundie Right's solution >To put Christian absolution >In the U.S. Constitution >And that don't sit well with me! > >Jehovah's fine transcendence >And the Church's great resplendence >Pushing guilt and co-dependence >Ain't good enough for me! > >Let us all worship Reason >Cause it never goes out of season >And only it makes good predictions >And that's good enough for me. > >We will walk upon ol' Bifrost >Tell ol' Heimdall that we're not lost >Ask Odin what the runes cost >And hit Loki with a pie! > >I hear Valkyries a-comin' >In the air their song is comin' >They forgot the words! They're hummin'! >But they're good enough for me! > >Do you see the great God Tyr? >He's the one with that huge spear, >And with Fenrir's tooth-marks here >And I'm glad they're not in me. > >It was good for Thor and Odin >It was good for Thor and Odin >Grab an axe and get your woad on! >and it's good enough for me! > >We will worship now with vigor >The goddess known as Frigga >Tho there are some who don't dig her >She is good enough for me! > >We will sing a verse for Loki >He's the old Norse god of Chaos >Which is why this verse don't >rhyme or scan or nothin' >But it's good enough for me... > >All the Gods tore into Loki >Saying Deicide is hokey! >And they threw him in the pokey! >And that's good enough for me! > >One-eyed Odin we will follow >And in fighting we will wallow >Till we wind up in Valhallow >Which is good enough for me! > >We'll all worship mighty Odin >While he's busy there decodin' >All those runes he found a floatin' >And it's good enough for me... > >Now Thor, he's armed with Mjollnir >Why choose that, I've no idear >He should oughta use a spear >But a hammer's fine by me. > >We will go and sing "Hosanna" >To our good ol' pal, Gautama, >He will never flim or flam ya', >And that's good enough for me! > >Clap one hand if you love the Buddha >It will put ya in the mood ta >Set off for Nirvana >And that's good enough for me! > >To the tune of Handel's "Largo" >We will hymn the gods of Cargo >'Til they slap on an embargo >And that's good enough for me! > >Say the Baptists, "We're the only >We're the one church that's not phony >If you give us all your money >Then to Heaven you shall go! > >Tho J.C.'s into fish, too, >He's an avatar of Vishnu >So he is welcome here, too, >And that's good enough for me! > >All the Christians pray to Jesus >Every Sunday on their kneeses >Then they do just what they pleases >For the rest of every week. > >Oh the Christians worship Jesus >But their sermons sure don't please us >It's a Sin each time ya sneezes >That ain't good enough for me! > >Oh my name is Torquemada >I burn Luth'rans in Granada >It's all for the Holy Fadda >And it's good enough for me! > >Let us worship this Jehovah >All you other gods move ovah >Cause the One God's taking over >That sounds awful dull to me! > >Well you can worship Jesus >Go ahead and pray to Jesus >But I tell you, he don't please us >Just leave my Gods to me! > >It was good enough for Jesus >Though Paul's doctrine doesn't please us >We prefer a faith that frees us >And that's good enough for me > >To Prometheus let us hark >In bringing fire, he made his mark >Or we'd be dancing in the dark >And that's not good enough for me! > >It was good for lovely Artemis >Who'd like to get to the heart of us >She's glad to be a part of us >And she's good enough for me! > >We will go and worship Vesta >For her cooking is the best-a >All the food at the fiesta >Which is good enough for me! > >Let us sing to Mother Hera, >Papa Zeus had best beware-a, >'Cause his wife's a holy terror >That's good enough for me. > >We will worship old Apollo >He's got others beat all hollow >Let him lead and we will follow >And that's good enough for me! > >We're not crazy over Aries >For his men give us the scaries >And they kill like Christ's and Mary's >Which ain't good enough for me! > >At Troy nobody was mean-a >That the Great Goddess Athena >Mopped them up with Ajax clean-a >And that's good enough for me! > >We will sing for great Diana >Who will teach of love and honor >But you really gotta wanna! >'Cause she's tough enough for me! > >If you have the itchy-squirmies >Then you better pray to Hermes >He will cure you of your germies >And he's good enough for me! > >Oh I'm following the Tao >Here and there and then and now >But I cannot tell you how >And it's good enough for me! > >Oh the Welsh gods, -you- announce 'em >Asking my gods to renounce 'em >But our gods, I can't pronounce 'em >Being tongue-tied's not for me! > >I will worship the god Aton >Yes the good old sun-god Aton >Tho he's nearly been forgotton >He's good enough for me! > >Let us worship Lady Isis >For her virtues and her vices >Of the Gods she is the nices' >And that's good enough for me! > >Bumper stickers of all sizes >At quite reasonable prices >They say 'ankh' if you love Isis >And that's good enough for me! > >We will bow down to Osiris >At the blooming of the Iris >And he'll save us from the virus >Which is good enough for me! > >We will sing a song of Ra >He's the god without a flaw >If his humour's rather raw, >Still he's good enough for me! > >We will pray to Ra and Ammon >Just like Tutankhamen, >And teach our friends embalmin', >They're good enough for me. > >We will worship Holy Ford >Beta, Delta, Gamma, Lord >But the Alphas might get bored >A Brave New World for you and me! >[Bill M, a tribute to that mass of misscanned text on your site which you >still have not corrected -- God as "First Cause" got rendered as "First >CaR"] > >Let us question Deep Thought too >Let us question Deep Thought too >'Cause the answer's Forty-Two! >And it's good enough for me! > >We've decided you are naughty, >If you're not of Landru's body, >Though his robes get kind of shoddy, >They're good enough for me! > >Let us celebrate Jehovah >Who created us "ab ova" >He'll be on tonight on "Nova" >'Cause he's good enough for me! > >You can worship God Adonai >Be allowed few things to enjoy >I'd much rather be just a goy >More comfortable for me! > >And we'll even sing to Moses, >Though his law's no bed of roses. >Let him pay us what he owes us >That's good enough for me. > >We will all bow down to Enlil >We will all bow down to Enlil >Pass your Cup and get a refill! >With bold Gilgamesh the Brave! > >Oh the ancient goddess Nerthus >From herself the Earth did birth us >And I wonder: are we worth us? >But she's good enough for me! > >We will go and worship Baal >For he is the Lord of All >In the fields and in the hall >He is good enough for me! > >We will all bow down to Dagon >A conservative old pagan >He still votes for Ronald Reagan >And that's good enough for me! > >We will all be saved by Mithras >We will all be saved by Mithras >Slay the Bull and play the zithras >On that Resurrection Day! > >Oh we all will worship Mithras >Because he was born at Chrith-mas >And he doesn't know St. Dith-mas >And that's good enough for me! > >Sun Moon's kids are kind of funny >But they stick to him like honey >He just wants their souls and money >And it's good enough for him! > >We will worship with the Mormons >'Cause they're not like Martin Bormann >Into gods they'll be re-bornin' >And that's good enough for me! > >Let us join the Earth Spirits >Let us join the Earth Spirits >With the Earth they will heal us >And its good enough for me! > >Some folks worship the Kachinas >Some folks worship the Kachinas >They look like "deus ex machinas" >But they're good enough for me! > >Thanks to great Quetzacoatl >And his sacred axolotl >And his gift of chocolatl >And please pass some down to me! > >Let us worship like the Quakers >(silent) >(silent) >It's good enough for me. > >There are those who worship science >And some would send 'em to the lions >Without 'em we'd have no appliance >So they're good enough for me > >Ameratsu brought the light in >And love's bonds began to tighten >The whole world began to brighten >And that's good enough for me! > >If you come to practice Shinto >Make sure you know what they are into >You must praise each rock and lean-to >But they're good enough for me! > >WICCAN CHORUS: Gimme that real old time religion > Gimme that real old time religion > Don't gimme no new affliction > It's good enough for me... > >Let us worship mighty Gaea >Listen to what she has to say-a >She'll say, "take your trash away-a" >And that's good enough for me! > >After converts we're not chasing >And their money we're not fleecing >Still our numbers are increasing >And that's good enough for me! > >In the face of Inquisition >We maintained an Opposition >And preserved the Old Tradition >And that's good enough for me! > >When the blizzard is a-whirling >And the Yule log is a-burning >And the Sun God is returning >It is good enough for me! > >Come and join the celebration >Pour the Goddess a libation >You don't need initiation >And that's good enough for me! > >Those Evangelists all say >They possess the one true way >I'll take Wicca any day >And that's good enough for me! > >Through the endless night we shiver >Flames around the Yule log quiver >As we sing to praise the Giver >Of the Sun on Solistice morn! > >Pagans gather in the clearing >For the end of Winter's nearing >And the Maiden is appearing >Bringing promises of Spring! > >All the apple trees wassail >As we heft the flowing pail >A good cider mixed with ale >And that's good enough for me! > >We're all children of the Goddess >We're all children of the Goddess >She always fed and shod us >She is good to you and me! > >Give thanks to the Earth our Mother >Give thanks to the Earth our Mother >She'll care for us like no other >And she's good enough for me! > >I will keep the Maypole rites >Coupling in the fields all night >Just to keep the crops from blight >And that's good enough for me! > >I will keep the Yule >For to bring the year's renewal >Keep the kiddies home from school >And that's good enough for me > >Perfect love and perfect trust >We shall rise up from the dust >And become the upper crust >And that's good enough for me! > >When the red-necks say we're sinning >I don't care, 'cause we are winning >And this is only the beginning >And that's good enough for me! > >Our Familiar is black >With a white stripe down his back >When his tail goes up, make tracks, >'Cause it ain't perfumery! > >Our Bard is macrophonic >And he thinks he's so harmonic >But he's more like cacophonic >And he plays a mile off-key! > >When I first became a pagan >It was daring and outragin' >Now my Circle's started agin' >But they're good enough for me! > >We will worship Frey and Freya >Yao and Vesta, Lugh and Gaia >Any more? Perun! and Maia! >That's still not enough for me! > >I pray to Ahura-Mazda >He's one god who sure won't pause ta >Pound some heads when given cause ta >Which is good enough for me! > >It was good enough for Larry >It was good enough for Moe >It was good enough for Curly >Please don't poke me in the eye! > >If you want to start religions, >If you want to start religions, >You'll need temples, you'll need pigeons, >And that's good enough for me. > >We will all read Joseph Campbell >Who made order out of shambles >Tho he sometimes kinda rambles >He's good enough for me! > > >THE OBLIGATORY LAST VERSE(S) > >If you think these verses floor us >Then go write another chorus >Just as long as you don't bore us >Then it's good enough for me! > >It's the opera written for us! >We will all join in the chorus! >It's the opera about Boris, >Which is Godunov for me! > > >THE FINAL WORD > >We will bow down to John Boardman >Tho he's not a master swordsman >Verses of this song he hoards, man >And he's good enough for me! > >Joe Bethancourt's a swordsman >And he also is a Hordesman >And he'll sing 'til he gets bored, man >And he's good enough for me! > >Give a rest to old religion, >If only just a smidgen. >It's really not my pidgin, >Though it's good enough for you! > >If you want a new edition >Let its writing be -your- mission! >As for me, I'm goin' fishin'! >Or I'll go and watch TV! > > >(quoting directly from the web site) >THE ORIGINS OF "REAL OTR": > >John Boardman, the East Coast collector of this song, says in >_ANAKREON_ #8 (1 Nov., 1980): "So far, two different stories have >come in of how "That Real Old Time Religion" originated. Robin R. >Arnhold writes that "Lady Cybele" started it a decade or more ago, >and says that (five of the early verses) are of her composition, with >a chorus of "Give Me That Old Craft Religion." 'The first exposure to >people other than Madison-area pagans came when Lady Cybele sang some >of her songs in informal sessions at the Gnostica festivals in the >early 1970's.' " > >"But Allison Harlow claims that 'Victor Anderson, the blind shaman of >San Leandro...first began singing these verses; we taught the idea to >NROOGD and _Nemeton_, whence it caught on in the Mid-West...and >finally reached the East Coast.'" > >John writes further in _ANAKREON_ #12 (1 Nov. 1981): "Rus (Gulevitch) >has a resolution of the situation presented in _ANAKREON_ #8, in >which two different stories of the origin of "That Real Old Time >Religion" were presented:" > >" 'I've heard about Cybele being the originator of OTR, too,' he >wrote, 'But I also heard that several covens (who had no contact with >each other) got the same idea at different times, and Cybele is but >the one who first made it more or less public. Such things happen >often enough.' " > >To which I (Joe Bethancourt) can only add that I heard it in the >early 1970's and have been collecting, and enjoying it ever since. >It's gotten into the oral tradition in Science-Fiction Fandom, a >little into the SCA, and is being sung in the folkie community quite >a bit too.....which means we can -never- collect -all- the verses .... >it's a -living- traditional song. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-za02.mx.aol.com (rly-za02.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.98]) by air-za05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:40:25 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f169.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.169]) by rly-za02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:39:51 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:39:51 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:39:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: DWise1@aol.com Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net, editor@liberator.net Subject: Another reason Christianity is true: Our music is the best Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:39:50 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:39:51.0129 (UTC) FILETIME=[3CE5F490:01C032FA] ################################################ Subj: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: 10-Oct-00 13:38:58 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), editor@liberator.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Nails, guns it don't matter. Look at what Christ did or more recently how the people in Yugoslavia rose up and over threw the corrupt regime. If you believe then good things will happen ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > > >in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > > >much > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told >you > > >that > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > >quite > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > >easier > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a >few > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Nails, guns it don't matter.  Look at what Christ did or more recently how the people in Yugoslavia rose up and over threw the corrupt regime.  If you believe then good things will happen
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From: Bill Morgan
To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place?
The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   From: Bill Morgan > >   To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > >   Mark, I apologized.  Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > >   you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > >   >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > >   >in the first place? > >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > >   > > >   >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >   > > >   >"Mark:  why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > >   >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > >   >much > >   >time angry about it?" > >   > > >   >Bill, I didn't ignore it.  You must have missed the letter.  I told >you > >   >that > >   >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction.  In fact, I find it > >quite > >   >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > >   > > >   >= ) > >   > > >   >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories.  I guess it's > >easier > >   >than believing reality.  That's their call.  It's my right to get a >few > >   >chuckles out of it. > >   > > >   >Mark > >   >The Liberator > >   >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >   >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >   http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (rly-yh02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.34]) by air-yh03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:38:58 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:38:32 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA17469; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <009f01c032f9$91e4a460$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:35:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009C_01C032BE.E332B4A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 13:40:30 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), editor@liberator.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Hmmm. I think the Raiders are in league with the Devil. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side. So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Hmmm.  I think the Raiders are in league with the Devil.
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From: Bill Morgan
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Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:28 PM
Subject: Jock itch
God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side.  So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:40:29 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:36:43 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA16511; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <009601c032f9$528b99e0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:33:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0093_01C032BE.A541C5A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo Date: 10-Oct-00 13:41:07 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), editor@liberator.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Of course. They believe they evolved from chimps. What can I do with someone who thinks they are a monkeys uncle? :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:30 PM Subject: From goo to you by way of the zoo Notice how they avoid your simple origin of life question Bill? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:09:05 -0500 > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. It's >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan on >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange character >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other >atheists. God Bless you! >Bill > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > >>From: "Mark" > >>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>CC: > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >> > >>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >> > >>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>again. > >>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>simply > >>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >> > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Of course.  They believe they evolved from chimps.  What can I do with someone who thinks they are a monkeys uncle? :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:30 PM
Subject: From goo to you by way of the zoo
Notice how they avoid your simple origin of life question Bill? >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:09:05 -0500 > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it.  It's your >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities.  It's >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too.  BTW, >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying.  You keep on burying >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better.  Some people can't >handle >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan on >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath >[see Numbers 15:32-37].  The Christian God is one helluva strange character >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >That's ok.  I will stick with my belief system.  I am proud to be a >Christian and always will be.  I will pray for you and all the other >atheists.  God Bless you! >Bill > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> >To: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net>; Bill Morgan ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: DWise1@aol.com <DWise1@aol.com> >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for > >help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side.  So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > >>From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >>To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >>CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >> > >>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >> > >>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > >>again. > >>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>simply > >>too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > >> > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:41:07 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:40:07 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA18573; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00ab01c032f9$c9c5c1c0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:36:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C032BF.1C7D7420" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Well mark thats not very Christian of you! Date: 10-Oct-00 13:41:46 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: DWise1@aol.com CC: billbeq@mediaone.net, editor@liberator.net >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: >CC: , , >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:39:44 EDT > > >>Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out that if >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend so >much time angry about it?<< > >You just don't get it, do you, Bill M? It is not Jesus himself that Mark >hates, but rather what those who call themselves his followers do, have >done, and intend to do. Whether Jesus was a fake or not really doesn't >matter; it's what Christians do that matters. And Mark doesn't like most >of what he sees being done. Especially if your own witness is any >indication. > >I wish that Steve Schimmrich's site weren't closed for renovation so that I >could get this quote and its source: "Christians are the best case that >can be made against Christianity" (quoted here from memory). And before >you shoot your mouth off from the hip, Steve is an evangelical Christian. >He is talking about his treatment at the hands of fellow Christians, YECs >who have viciously attacked him for not being a YEC and for pointing out >glaring factual errors in YEC teachings (he had just finished all the work >on his PhD Geology, last I heard). > >Another staunch Christian from the CompuServe Religion Forum made an >interesting point: in terms of personal lives and society, it really >doesn't matter whether the claims of Christianity are true or not; it only >matters that we BELIEVE that they are true. Now, most of what this guy >would say seemed off-the-wall; he was a retired mathematician who claimed >to have invented Gray Code, but could no longer work since his stroke. But >this one made sense! If somebody believes that something is true, he will >then act according to that belief completely independent of whether it >really is true or not. And if the entire society believes it to be true, >then that belief will have a profound impact on that society and culture, >again regardless of whether it is actually true or not. > >Has Christianity had a profound effect on Western societies, cultures, and >history? Yes it has indeed. Does that mean that Christianity is true? >No, it only means that Western societies believed it to be true. Has >Christianity's profound effect been beneficial or detrimental? Well, that >is clearly a matter for much discussion and disagreement. Which is what >your disagreement with Mark is really about here: he believes that its >effect is detrimental while you believe it to be beneficial. > >Though I would add that that will only work if the believer is not >presented with compelling evidence that that belief is not true. That is >the danger which creation science presents to believers. If you get >somebody to really believe that creation science is true and that his faith >directly depends on it being true, then his faith will be jeopardized when >he discovers that creation science is not true. Like Glenn R. Morton's >creation-science-trained geologists when they were faced with the rock-hard >facts that geologists deal with in the field daily. Like too many other >Christians who have suffered severe crises of faith so unnecessarily. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (rly-zb02.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.2]) by air-zb04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:41:46 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f129.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.129]) by rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:41:07 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:41:03 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:41:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: DWise1@aol.com Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net, editor@liberator.net Subject: Well mark thats not very Christian of you! Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:41:02 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:41:03.0168 (UTC) FILETIME=[67D63C00:01C032FA] ################################################ Subj: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Date: 10-Oct-00 13:41:58 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), DWise1@aol.com CC: editor@liberator.net Buddy we are not monkey's uncles!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Cc: editor@liberator.net Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Buddy, they are too chicken to answer your sincere inquiry. trust me! >From: "Bill Bequette" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:38:40 -0700 > >Mr Wise what is your best explanation for the origin of life? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: DWise1@aol.com > Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > > You insulted my wife's faith in Christ and gave that as your reaosn for >not > going to Denny's. > > mr Wise.....give me your best explanation for the origin of life. > > > >From: DWise1@aol.com > >To: > >CC: , , > >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > >Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:30:14 EDT > > > > > > >>I love the intellectual thrust and parry with those of different > >opinions, I have no problem with that.....it is the greatest catalyst > >toward futher research....being challenged....<< > > > >Since when, Bill M? Both Mark and I have observed you in action since > >1996. We have watched you do everything you can to avoid discussion, > >including your favorite trick of laying down rabbit trails. > > > >But then we have not observed you with somebody who doesn't know what >is > >going on. I guess that would make a difference, because you only want >to > >be "challenged" when you can tap-dance rings around the other guy. But > >bring in somebody who knows something about creation science and you >duck > >and run. > > > > >>I just have a hard time with incessant insults and whining from >people > >who will remain nameless.<< > > > >Well, Bill M, if you would stop obstructing the search for truth then > >things would run a whole lot smoother. If only you weren't so afraid >of > >the truth. > > > >For the THIRTIETH TIME, Bill M, substantiate your accusations against >me! > >Tell us what you think I had said! > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Buddy we are not monkey's uncles!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com
Cc: editor@liberator.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide
Buddy, they are too chicken to answer your sincere inquiry.  trust me! >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <DWise1@aol.com> >CC: <editor@liberator.net> >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:38:40 -0700 > >Mr Wise what is your best explanation for the origin of life? >   ----- Original Message ----- >   From: Bill Morgan >   To: DWise1@aol.com >   Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >   Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:22 PM >   Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > >   You insulted my wife's faith in Christ and gave that as your reaosn for >not >   going to Denny's. > >   mr Wise.....give me your best explanation for the origin of life. > > >   >From: DWise1@aol.com >   >To: <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >   >CC: <billbeq@mediaone.net>, <editor@liberator.net>, <DWise1@aol.com> >   >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >   >Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:30:14 EDT >   > >   > >   > >>I love the intellectual thrust and parry with those of different >   >opinions, I have no problem with that.....it is the greatest catalyst >   >toward futher research....being challenged....<< >   > >   >Since when, Bill M?  Both Mark and I have observed you in action since >   >1996.  We have watched you do everything you can to avoid discussion, >   >including your favorite trick of laying down rabbit trails. >   > >   >But then we have not observed you with somebody who doesn't know what >is >   >going on.  I guess that would make a difference, because you only want >to >   >be "challenged" when you can tap-dance rings around the other guy.  But >   >bring in somebody who knows something about creation science and you >duck >   >and run. >   > >   > >>I just have a hard time with incessant insults and whining from >people >   >who will remain nameless.<< >   > >   >Well, Bill M, if you would stop obstructing the search for truth then >   >things would run a whole lot smoother.  If only you weren't so afraid >of >   >the truth. >   > >   >For the THIRTIETH TIME, Bill M, substantiate your accusations against >me! >   >Tell us what you think I had said! >   > > >   >_________________________________________________________________________ >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >   http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (rly-yh02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.34]) by air-yh03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:41:58 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:41:18 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA19370; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00bd01c032f9$f3f159a0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:37:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BA_01C032BF.46A78560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Cain's wife Date: 10-Oct-00 13:42:18 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), editor@liberator.net CC: DWise1@aol.com 10 points go to Bill. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" >CC: , >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
10 points go to Bill. 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: editor@liberator.net
Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:24 PM
Subject: Cain's wife
The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child.  this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <billbeq@mediaone.net>, <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects.  >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:42:18 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:41:51 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA19730; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00c601c032fa$068a17a0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Cain's wife Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:38:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C3_01C032BF.5947E480" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: 10-Oct-00 13:44:08 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), editor@liberator.net CC: DWise1@aol.com That's ok there are no aethists in foxholes. When old age and death approach watch these guys become Christians fast!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:33 PM Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his anger and frustration. Something in his life did not work out as planned (welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist at God. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining. Once >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from all >the religions and philosophies that are available. > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > >= ) > >Thinking for the both of us, > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >Mark, >You would be a great Christian. With all the energy you spend talking >about >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in >convalescent homes. God Bless you, Bill > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists. God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >>help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >>itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > >>P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >>admitting defeat so easily? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Bequette > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >>Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Morgan > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >> > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >>Life Mist da Mark. > >> > >> > >>>From: "Mark" > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>>CC: > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >>> > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >>> > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >>> > >>>= ) > >>> > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>>again. > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>>simply > >>>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >>> > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >>> > >>>Mark > >>>The Liberator > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >>> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >> > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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That's ok there are no aethists in foxholes.  When old age and death approach watch these guys become Christians fast!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:33 PM
Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka
Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his anger and frustration.  Something in his life did not work out as planned (welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist at God. >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining.  Once >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from all >the religions and philosophies that are available. > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > >= ) > >Thinking for the both of us, > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >Mark, >You would be a great Christian.  With all the energy you spend talking >about >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in >convalescent homes.  God Bless you, Bill > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> >To: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net>; Bill Morgan ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: DWise1@aol.com <DWise1@aol.com> >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it.  It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities.  >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too.  BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying.  You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better.  Some people can't >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37].  The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok.  I will stick with my belief system.  I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be.  I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists.  God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> > >To: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net>; Bill Morgan > ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com <DWise1@aol.com> > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >>help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >>itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > >>P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are > >you > >>admitting defeat so easily? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Bequette > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the > >>Lord is on your side.  So go easy. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Morgan > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >> > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >>Life Mist da Mark. > >> > >> > >>>From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >>>CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >>> > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >>> > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>>consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >>> > >>>= ) > >>> > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > >>>again. > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>>simply > >>>too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > >>> > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >>> > >>>Mark > >>>The Liberator > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >>> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >> > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (rly-zb01.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.1]) by air-zb03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:44:08 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:43:28 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA20624; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00d501c032fa$41555ca0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:39:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C032BF.940B8860" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 10-Oct-00 13:45:51 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), editor@liberator.net CC: DWise1@aol.com PRAISE JESUS!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any. God made a nice clean defect free genetic code! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects. That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
PRAISE JESUS!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet?
I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any. God made a nice clean defect free genetic code! >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question.  Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects.  That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> >To: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net <billbeq@mediaone.net>; DWise1@aol.com ><DWise1@aol.com> >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:40:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C032BF.9F603A80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: In the spirit of the Olympics, Dave's e mail gets a 9.9! Date: 10-Oct-00 13:48:05 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: DWise1@aol.com, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: editor@liberator.net What a great e amil! Dave, you and I would have so much fun as buddies if we fished, hunted and then cooked our kill over an open fire and told great stories like your 3 stooge story and never brought up religion. I forgot Larry was a Fine. My error. I always felt sorry for Larry, and hated Moe, but I watched them a lot as a child. Are they on anymore? >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: >CC: , , >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:42:21 EDT > > >>I envision giving Mark a Moe-Howard haircut and David a Larry-Howard >haircut. Is that acceptable?<< > >So, behind your persistent overtures of friendship lies your true ulterior >motives to pull dirty tricks to pull on us and to humiliate us. You strive >to gain our trust, just so you can betray that trust. > >Thank you for your Christian witness. And you wonder why the popularity of >Christians is so low (or at least the conservative Christian propaganda >machinery keeps complaining that it is). That Trojan-Horse proverb should >be changed to: "Beware of Christians professing friendship." I am also >reminded of what the Bible says about wolves in sheep's clothing. Which >then reminds me of a speaker drawing several parallels between the >Pharisees, as depicted in the New Testament, and the Fundamentalists of >today. > > >BTW, Moe and Joe were Howards and brothers. Larry was a Fine. [heard over >the PA system in one of their hospital routines: "Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. >Howard"] You should watch Biography more often. > >Trivia Question: Why did Larry Fine's parents have him learn the violin? > >True War Story: When I was sent to NCO Leadership School at Keesler AFB, >my roommate met up again with a buddy from when they were stationed in >Germany. They were both Stooges fans and, because they couldn't watch any >Stooges over there, they used to play through the routines themselves. As >I watched them reminisce and run through some routines, this big sergeant >(same rank as us) came over and just quietly watched for a while. Then he >opened his wallet and pulled out his Official Three Stooges Fan Club card. >For the next two weeks, not only did I have all three of them re-enacting >Stooges routines all the time, but the local TV station played a 15-minute >Stooges program every morning before we went to class. Mandatory viewing. >[One short I hadn't seen before: The three try to sneak into the race >track for free by posing as members of the press, to which end they steal >knobs from the restroom to use as press buttons -- "Press" "Press" "Pull -- >nyuk, nyuk, nyuk"] > > >PS >Your diabolical plot would not have worked. My hair is too short. > >PPS >We also have hair clippers. My wife used it to keep my hair trimmed when I >was on active duty ("when I was in the war" in Air-Force-speak). Before >that, I used to do my own hair with scissors and a razor comb. Trimming my >beard with scissors was no problem, except for when I nearly snipped my >ear-lobe off. > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-za01.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by air-za05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:48:04 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f136.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.136]) by rly-za01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:47:01 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:46:59 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:46:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: DWise1@aol.com, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: editor@liberator.net Subject: In the spirit of the Olympics, Dave's e mail gets a 9.9! Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:46:59 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:46:59.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C485F90:01C032FB] ################################################ Subj: Re: In the spirit of the Olympics, Dave's e mail gets a 9.9! Date: 10-Oct-00 13:49:18 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), DWise1@aol.com CC: editor@liberator.net Curly is my hero ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: DWise1@aol.com ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: editor@liberator.net Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:46 PM Subject: In the spirit of the Olympics, Dave's e mail gets a 9.9! What a great e amil! Dave, you and I would have so much fun as buddies if we fished, hunted and then cooked our kill over an open fire and told great stories like your 3 stooge story and never brought up religion. I forgot Larry was a Fine. My error. I always felt sorry for Larry, and hated Moe, but I watched them a lot as a child. Are they on anymore? >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: >CC: , , >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:42:21 EDT > > >>I envision giving Mark a Moe-Howard haircut and David a Larry-Howard >haircut. Is that acceptable?<< > >So, behind your persistent overtures of friendship lies your true ulterior >motives to pull dirty tricks to pull on us and to humiliate us. You strive >to gain our trust, just so you can betray that trust. > >Thank you for your Christian witness. And you wonder why the popularity of >Christians is so low (or at least the conservative Christian propaganda >machinery keeps complaining that it is). That Trojan-Horse proverb should >be changed to: "Beware of Christians professing friendship." I am also >reminded of what the Bible says about wolves in sheep's clothing. Which >then reminds me of a speaker drawing several parallels between the >Pharisees, as depicted in the New Testament, and the Fundamentalists of >today. > > >BTW, Moe and Joe were Howards and brothers. Larry was a Fine. [heard over >the PA system in one of their hospital routines: "Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. >Howard"] You should watch Biography more often. > >Trivia Question: Why did Larry Fine's parents have him learn the violin? > >True War Story: When I was sent to NCO Leadership School at Keesler AFB, >my roommate met up again with a buddy from when they were stationed in >Germany. They were both Stooges fans and, because they couldn't watch any >Stooges over there, they used to play through the routines themselves. As >I watched them reminisce and run through some routines, this big sergeant >(same rank as us) came over and just quietly watched for a while. Then he >opened his wallet and pulled out his Official Three Stooges Fan Club card. >For the next two weeks, not only did I have all three of them re-enacting >Stooges routines all the time, but the local TV station played a 15-minute >Stooges program every morning before we went to class. Mandatory viewing. >[One short I hadn't seen before: The three try to sneak into the race >track for free by posing as members of the press, to which end they steal >knobs from the restroom to use as press buttons -- "Press" "Press" "Pull -- >nyuk, nyuk, nyuk"] > > >PS >Your diabolical plot would not have worked. My hair is too short. > >PPS >We also have hair clippers. My wife used it to keep my hair trimmed when I >was on active duty ("when I was in the war" in Air-Force-speak). Before >that, I used to do my own hair with scissors and a razor comb. Trimming my >beard with scissors was no problem, except for when I nearly snipped my >ear-lobe off. > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Curly is my hero
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Cc: editor@liberator.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:46 PM
Subject: In the spirit of the Olympics, Dave's e mail gets a 9.9!
What a great e amil!  Dave, you and I would have so much fun as buddies if we fished, hunted and then cooked our kill over an open fire and told great stories like your 3 stooge story and never brought up religion. I forgot Larry was a Fine.  My error.  I always felt sorry for Larry, and hated Moe, but I watched them a lot as a child.  Are they on anymore? >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: <billbeq@mediaone.net> >CC: <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <DWise1@aol.com>, <editor@liberator.net> >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:42:21 EDT > > >>I envision giving Mark a Moe-Howard haircut and David a Larry-Howard >haircut.  Is that acceptable?<< > >So, behind your persistent overtures of friendship lies your true ulterior >motives to pull dirty tricks to pull on us and to humiliate us.  You strive >to gain our trust, just so you can betray that trust. > >Thank you for your Christian witness.  And you wonder why the popularity of >Christians is so low (or at least the conservative Christian propaganda >machinery keeps complaining that it is).  That Trojan-Horse proverb should >be changed to:  "Beware of Christians professing friendship."  I am also >reminded of what the Bible says about wolves in sheep's clothing.  Which >then reminds me of a speaker drawing several parallels between the >Pharisees, as depicted in the New Testament, and the Fundamentalists of >today. > > >BTW, Moe and Joe were Howards and brothers.  Larry was a Fine.  [heard over >the PA system in one of their hospital routines: "Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. >Howard"]  You should watch Biography more often. > >Trivia Question:  Why did Larry Fine's parents have him learn the violin? > >True War Story:  When I was sent to NCO Leadership School at Keesler AFB, >my roommate met up again with a buddy from when they were stationed in >Germany.  They were both Stooges fans and, because they couldn't watch any >Stooges over there, they used to play through the routines themselves.  As >I watched them reminisce and run through some routines, this big sergeant >(same rank as us) came over and just quietly watched for a while.  Then he >opened his wallet and pulled out his Official Three Stooges Fan Club card.  >For the next two weeks, not only did I have all three of them re-enacting >Stooges routines all the time, but the local TV station played a 15-minute >Stooges program every morning before we went to class.  Mandatory viewing.  >[One short I hadn't seen before:  The three try to sneak into the race >track for free by posing as members of the press, to which end they steal >knobs from the restroom to use as press buttons -- "Press" "Press" "Pull -- >nyuk, nyuk, nyuk"] > > >PS >Your diabolical plot would not have worked.  My hair is too short. > >PPS >We also have hair clippers.  My wife used it to keep my hair trimmed when I >was on active duty ("when I was in the war" in Air-Force-speak).  Before >that, I used to do my own hair with scissors and a razor comb.  Trimming my >beard with scissors was no problem, except for when I nearly snipped my >ear-lobe off. > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc01.mx.aol.com (rly-zc01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.1]) by air-zc05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:49:18 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zc01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:48:26 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA23616; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00ed01c032fa$f5c1b760$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: In the spirit of the Olympics, Dave's e mail gets a 9.9! Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:44:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C032C0.484D29A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Was Undeliverable Date: 10-Oct-00 13:55:55 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: DWise1@aol.com, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: editor@liberator.net Dave: was Joseph Stalin evil: a) yes b) no >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: >CC: , , >Subject: Re: Was Undeliverable >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:43:33 EDT > > >>How can you use the word "evil" if you don't believe in God? How can >"evil" exist in your world of no higher meaning or morality, just the cold >vacuum of space?<< > >Because evil does exist, as does good, as part of the human condition. As >does morality. You don't need to rely on the supernatural to explain their >existence. > >I do realize that this is contrary to your theology. I realize that your >theology teaches that morality cannot exist without your god. Yet morality >does exist in all cultures regardless of belief in your god or lack >thereof. It serves a very real and vital purpose, not just some abstract >one. > >Have you thought your theology through on the matter of morality? What is >that theology's effect on someone who stops believing in your god? > >The fundamentalist teaching that I have heard on this is that without your >god there is no reason for anyone to act morally. You yourself echoed this >with your question above. I have heard and read the testimonies of several >former Christians who became atheists, most often because they had >discovered that their religion and/or religious leaders had been lying to >them or had betrayed them in some other way (whether the lie or betrayal >was real is immaterial; all that matters it that the individual believed >that it had happened). They had been raised on the belief that without >God, there is no reason to behave morally. > >What would the consequences be? > >Now also consider that several YEC Christians have suffered severe crises >of faith when they discovered that the creation science claims they had >been basing their faith on are false. Some became atheists, some remained >Christians, but none of them remained YECs. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd02.mx.aol.com (rly-yd02.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.2]) by air-yd05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:55:55 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f94.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.94]) by rly-yd02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:55:42 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:55:41 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:55:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: DWise1@aol.com, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: editor@liberator.net Subject: Re: Was Undeliverable Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:55:41 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 20:55:41.0471 (UTC) FILETIME=[7358A2F0:01C032FC] ################################################ Subj: Re: Was Undeliverable Date: 10-Oct-00 14:04:44 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), DWise1@aol.com CC: editor@liberator.net Excellent ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: DWise1@aol.com ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: editor@liberator.net Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Was Undeliverable Dave: was Joseph Stalin evil: a) yes b) no >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: >CC: , , >Subject: Re: Was Undeliverable >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:43:33 EDT > > >>How can you use the word "evil" if you don't believe in God? How can >"evil" exist in your world of no higher meaning or morality, just the cold >vacuum of space?<< > >Because evil does exist, as does good, as part of the human condition. As >does morality. You don't need to rely on the supernatural to explain their >existence. > >I do realize that this is contrary to your theology. I realize that your >theology teaches that morality cannot exist without your god. Yet morality >does exist in all cultures regardless of belief in your god or lack >thereof. It serves a very real and vital purpose, not just some abstract >one. > >Have you thought your theology through on the matter of morality? What is >that theology's effect on someone who stops believing in your god? > >The fundamentalist teaching that I have heard on this is that without your >god there is no reason for anyone to act morally. You yourself echoed this >with your question above. I have heard and read the testimonies of several >former Christians who became atheists, most often because they had >discovered that their religion and/or religious leaders had been lying to >them or had betrayed them in some other way (whether the lie or betrayal >was real is immaterial; all that matters it that the individual believed >that it had happened). They had been raised on the belief that without >God, there is no reason to behave morally. > >What would the consequences be? > >Now also consider that several YEC Christians have suffered severe crises >of faith when they discovered that the creation science claims they had >been basing their faith on are false. Some became atheists, some remained >Christians, but none of them remained YECs. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Cc: editor@liberator.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: Was Undeliverable
Dave:  was Joseph Stalin evil: a) yes b) no >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: <billbeq@mediaone.net> >CC: <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <DWise1@aol.com>, <editor@liberator.net> >Subject: Re: Was Undeliverable >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:43:33 EDT > > >>How can you use the word "evil" if you don't believe in God?  How can >"evil" exist in your world of no higher meaning or morality, just the cold >vacuum of space?<< > >Because evil does exist, as does good, as part of the human condition.  As >does morality.  You don't need to rely on the supernatural to explain their >existence. > >I do realize that this is contrary to your theology.  I realize that your >theology teaches that morality cannot exist without your god.  Yet morality >does exist in all cultures regardless of belief in your god or lack >thereof.  It serves a very real and vital purpose, not just some abstract >one. > >Have you thought your theology through on the matter of morality?  What is >that theology's effect on someone who stops believing in your god? > >The fundamentalist teaching that I have heard on this is that without your >god there is no reason for anyone to act morally.  You yourself echoed this >with your question above.  I have heard and read the testimonies of several >former Christians who became atheists, most often because they had >discovered that their religion and/or religious leaders had been lying to >them or had betrayed them in some other way (whether the lie or betrayal >was real is immaterial; all that matters it that the individual believed >that it had happened).  They had been raised on the belief that without >God, there is no reason to behave morally. > >What would the consequences be? > >Now also consider that several YEC Christians have suffered severe crises >of faith when they discovered that the creation science claims they had >been basing their faith on are false.  Some became atheists, some remained >Christians, but none of them remained YECs. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:04:44 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:04:22 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA03474; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00f601c032fd$2ee8d760$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Was Undeliverable Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:00:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F3_01C032C2.816CA880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Was Undeliverable Date: 10-Oct-00 14:22:40 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), DWise1@aol.com, billbeq@mediaone.net Bill: Is evil an entity that makes one do 'bad' things? If yes, what makes you think evil exists? If no, what is your definition of evil and what makes someone do 'bad' things? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:55 PM Subject: Re: Was Undeliverable Dave: was Joseph Stalin evil: a) yes b) no >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: >CC: , , >Subject: Re: Was Undeliverable >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:43:33 EDT > > >>How can you use the word "evil" if you don't believe in God? How can >"evil" exist in your world of no higher meaning or morality, just the cold >vacuum of space?<< > >Because evil does exist, as does good, as part of the human condition. As >does morality. You don't need to rely on the supernatural to explain their >existence. > >I do realize that this is contrary to your theology. I realize that your >theology teaches that morality cannot exist without your god. Yet morality >does exist in all cultures regardless of belief in your god or lack >thereof. It serves a very real and vital purpose, not just some abstract >one. > >Have you thought your theology through on the matter of morality? What is >that theology's effect on someone who stops believing in your god? > >The fundamentalist teaching that I have heard on this is that without your >god there is no reason for anyone to act morally. You yourself echoed this >with your question above. I have heard and read the testimonies of several >former Christians who became atheists, most often because they had >discovered that their religion and/or religious leaders had been lying to >them or had betrayed them in some other way (whether the lie or betrayal >was real is immaterial; all that matters it that the individual believed >that it had happened). They had been raised on the belief that without >God, there is no reason to behave morally. > >What would the consequences be? > >Now also consider that several YEC Christians have suffered severe crises >of faith when they discovered that the creation science claims they had >been basing their faith on are false. Some became atheists, some remained >Christians, but none of them remained YECs. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb05.mx.aol.com (rly-zb05.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.5]) by air-zb05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:22:40 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zb05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:22:21 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA45599; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:22:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <000401c03300$6b425620$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" , , References: Subject: Re: Was Undeliverable Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:24:03 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo Date: 10-Oct-00 14:23:51 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, notice how my web addresses have been completely ignored? Here it is again: www.liberator.net/ulc/ Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: From goo to you by way of the zoo Notice how they avoid your simple origin of life question Bill? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:09:05 -0500 > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. It's >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan on >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange character >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other >atheists. God Bless you! >Bill > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > >>From: "Mark" > >>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>CC: > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >> > >>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >> > >>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>again. > >>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>simply > >>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >> > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg01.mx.aol.com (rly-yg01.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.1]) by air-yg03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:23:51 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yg01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:23:23 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA45792; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:23:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <000901c03300$8fcbf960$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:25:05 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 14:26:24 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side. So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Date: 10-Oct-00 14:27:35 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > > >in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > > >much > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told >you > > >that > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > >quite > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > >easier > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a >few > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:28:23 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo Date: 10-Oct-00 14:50:37 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill have you read the stuff at his web site? I have. I disagree with it but I read a lot of it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:25 PM Subject: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo Bill, notice how my web addresses have been completely ignored? Here it is again: www.liberator.net/ulc/ Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: From goo to you by way of the zoo Notice how they avoid your simple origin of life question Bill? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:09:05 -0500 > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. It's >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan on >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange character >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other >atheists. God Bless you! >Bill > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > >>From: "Mark" > >>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>CC: > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >> > >>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >> > >>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>again. > >>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>simply > >>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >> > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Bill have you read the stuff at his web site?  I have.  I disagree with it but I read a lot of it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo
Bill, notice how my web addresses have been completely ignored?  Here it is again: www.liberator.net/ulc/ Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: From goo to you by way of the zoo Notice how they avoid your simple origin of life question Bill? >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:09:05 -0500 > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it.  It's your >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities.  It's >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too.  BTW, >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying.  You keep on burying >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better.  Some people can't >handle >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan on >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath >[see Numbers 15:32-37].  The Christian God is one helluva strange character >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >That's ok.  I will stick with my belief system.  I am proud to be a >Christian and always will be.  I will pray for you and all the other >atheists.  God Bless you! >Bill > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> >To: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net>; Bill Morgan ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: DWise1@aol.com <DWise1@aol.com> >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for > >help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side.  So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > >>From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >>To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >>CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >> > >>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >> > >>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > >>again. > >>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>simply > >>too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > >> > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (rly-zd01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.225]) by air-zd03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:50:37 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:49:54 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA01849; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <013801c03303$8799dca0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <000901c03300$8fcbf960$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:46:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0135_01C032C8.D9E3B200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: 10-Oct-00 14:50:57 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Totally False. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > > >in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > > >much > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told >you > > >that > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > >quite > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > >easier > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a >few > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Totally False.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place?
The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths.  You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   From: Bill Morgan > >   To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > >   Mark, I apologized.  Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > >   you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > >   >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > >   >in the first place? > >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > >   > > >   >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >   > > >   >"Mark:  why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > >   >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > >   >much > >   >time angry about it?" > >   > > >   >Bill, I didn't ignore it.  You must have missed the letter.  I told >you > >   >that > >   >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction.  In fact, I find it > >quite > >   >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > >   > > >   >= ) > >   > > >   >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories.  I guess it's > >easier > >   >than believing reality.  That's their call.  It's my right to get a >few > >   >chuckles out of it. > >   > > >   >Mark > >   >The Liberator > >   >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >   >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >   http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh01.mx.aol.com (rly-yh01.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.33]) by air-yh02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:50:57 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-yh01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:50:18 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA02082; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <014101c03303$9698f920$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <001301c03301$055ae240$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:46:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013E_01C032C8.E94783C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 14:52:01 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side. So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Jock itch
I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more important than kids with cancer.  It must be sad for you to worship a petty God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side.  So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (rly-zd01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.225]) by air-zd05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:52:01 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:50:53 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA02545; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <014a01c03303$aad3ce60$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <000e01c03300$cab8d020$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:47:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0147_01C032C8.FD9321E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Date: 10-Oct-00 14:58:12 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net, DWise1@aol.com Bill, I'm still waiting for you guys to respond to the articles/thoughts at www.liberator.net/ulc/ . Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Buddy, they are too chicken to answer your sincere inquiry. trust me! >From: "Bill Bequette" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:38:40 -0700 > >Mr Wise what is your best explanation for the origin of life? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: DWise1@aol.com > Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > > You insulted my wife's faith in Christ and gave that as your reaosn for >not > going to Denny's. > > mr Wise.....give me your best explanation for the origin of life. > > > >From: DWise1@aol.com > >To: > >CC: , , > >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > >Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:30:14 EDT > > > > > > >>I love the intellectual thrust and parry with those of different > >opinions, I have no problem with that.....it is the greatest catalyst > >toward futher research....being challenged....<< > > > >Since when, Bill M? Both Mark and I have observed you in action since > >1996. We have watched you do everything you can to avoid discussion, > >including your favorite trick of laying down rabbit trails. > > > >But then we have not observed you with somebody who doesn't know what >is > >going on. I guess that would make a difference, because you only want >to > >be "challenged" when you can tap-dance rings around the other guy. But > >bring in somebody who knows something about creation science and you >duck > >and run. > > > > >>I just have a hard time with incessant insults and whining from >people > >who will remain nameless.<< > > > >Well, Bill M, if you would stop obstructing the search for truth then > >things would run a whole lot smoother. If only you weren't so afraid >of > >the truth. > > > >For the THIRTIETH TIME, Bill M, substantiate your accusations against >me! > >Tell us what you think I had said! > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb05.mx.aol.com (rly-zb05.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.5]) by air-zb05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:58:12 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zb05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:57:54 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA00594; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:57:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <005101c03305$61fd09c0$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" , , References: Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:38:52 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: 10-Oct-00 14:58:28 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: billbeq@mediaone.net, DWise1@aol.com The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals. Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations. The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science. It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" >CC: , >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:58:27 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:57:52 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA00590; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:57:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <004e01c03305$60ceea00$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" Cc: , References: Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:37:19 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: 10-Oct-00 14:58:30 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill Morgan , you wrote: "Show me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person. Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness." Hmmm.... I find your statement to be quite interesting. You are skeptical of science and reason yet I am a believer in science and reason. Does that make you an angry, bitter person? "Greg Laurie said once: even if Christianity were not true (and all four of us know it is true)..." Then prove it is true. "...it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial." Yet you deny science. Interesting... There used to be a time when philosophers studied God by studying the Universe, which included science of course. Now certain religious people no longer feel the natural laws that your Christian God created [you assume that God created the Universe] are worthy of studying and analyzing. If you assume that your Christian God entitled us with a cerebrum we should not use, then either your interpretation of the Christian God is in error or your God is not worthy of such worship. "Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote about 2000 years ago! Amen!" Read Megatrends by John Naisbitt. Now there's a book that does a great job predicting the future and those predictions are not super vague like those in the Bible. Bible prophecy is so vague it can be used to nearly explain anything you can imagine. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg04.mx.aol.com (rly-yg04.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.4]) by air-yg05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:58:30 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yg04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:58:00 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA00601; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:57:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <005301c03305$65012200$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:57:49 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Raking leaves in a dog occupied area is stinky work Date: 10-Oct-00 14:58:33 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Religious Parrots Introducing the Bird to the Cat by The Liberator (Ordained Minister of the ULC) [March 19th, 2000] Do religions promote thought? I think that it is obvious that religions do not promote thought -- see below for the exceptions to this conclusion. I can draw that conclusion because when one asks a "why" question long enough within the confines of a religious discussion, sooner or later the religious people involved get irked. When proof of fantastical claims is even hinted at, religious people seemingly get offended. Why? It's because many facets of religion are inherently rooted in non-questioning, called 'faith.' Religious beliefs are passed down, generation to generation, without the ability for the recipients to question them because that is the framework in which in rests. Is this healthy? Does this allow us to come to the best understanding of the universe? Is this a method for gathering meaning and/or purpose? What message does this send to the recipients when our society so desperately needs problem solvers and critical thinkers in every area of life -- spirituality unexempt? I'm not mentioning my point of view to perturb devout religious readers, but to shed light on the dynamic between science-centered thinking and faith-centered non-questioning. The two views appear to be at war with each other. There certainly is friction. However religion, in my view, needs a strong element of questioning added to it because the ability to freely ask questions is freedom of thought and hinges on freedom of religion. Even The United States Constitution does not prohibit the free exercise of religion. Why should religions do it to its practitioners? When problems occur, over any topic or situation, the problem is likely to be solved by those who were once allowed to ask questions. Consequently, they understand how things really work. When a similar problem is thrown in the laps of those who have been cultured by non-questioning, are they equally likely to solve the problem? I would guess that it is less likely. This suggests that practical functionality must be a component of religion. We must accept that religions do change over time. This should be easy to do in light of the Pope recently asking us to forgive the church for its past evils. Keeping that in mind, if I were a proponent of any particular faith, I would want my faith to change in such away that it actually improved. In a culture geared toward non-questioning, what chance does my religion stand to improve? Created by men, religions need to be molded by thinkers who can mutate them to solve the problems and situations of our time. We want these religious thinkers to have the freedom to alter our belief systems in such a way that these changes will have the broadest positive impact on us and future generations. We owe it to ourselves and to our children. What does the alternative look like if we allow a non-questioning belief system to continue unchecked? It is my point of view that if organized religions are to ascend into maturity, they would have to learn how to incorporate a true sense of religious freedom. It is certainly clear that this is no easy task, since the role of religion is to, in part, gather people together under a tightly woven umbrella to give them a common spiritual fabric. Allowing people to speculate on religious tenants is risky business. This spoils the dogma and actually attacks the whole notion of dogma, which is so dear to religion. Nevertheless, it must be done. What happens if religions continue to be non-question based? The population is split by a mental dichotomy. They are split in a sense by the two major institutions in their lives and the differing methods each one promotes. They spend nearly half of the calendar year in schools that foster creativity and thought. They spend a fewer number of hours in churches that praise a non-questioning belief system. Even though the proportion of time in church is small, the social impact on and from family is still strong. When people inevitably encounter problems, there is a dilemma. Should they have faith that these problems will go away or should they instinctively roll up their sleeves to tackle the problem? It's that simple. Religion must teach people about creativity and how to question, along with schools. It must be practical else it will eventually die of its own volition. Sure, religions are about social context: learning how to get along. But why must it deny its practitioners the right to question? Why must it have such a huge amount of complacency centered at its core? Ironically, if more religious people were aware of this, many of them would be making the same points mentioned here. However, getting out of that mode of complacency requires the ability to freely question, which religious institutions -- in general -- squash early. Donning the colorful robes. We can persist making extremely ornamental churches. Yes, I enjoy the view. We can allow ourselves to be overwhelmed by the incense and impressed by the shiny, fancy chalices. I like the way they look too. We can even go along with the plan and follow the ritual: stand up, sit down, kneel, and pass the basket. At this point, my ability to coalesce ends. The show has to end when I finally determine that my creativity and right to ponder my own independent thoughts feels stifled. I would opt for a more practical religion that is bare-bones but is also helpful on many levels. The populace must not be getting this because church attendance is down. The old way is not working anymore. It's time for a change. What is there to fear, save for the literal belief in religious anecdotes? Knowledge is an interesting thing. When two or more branches come together in the mind, there is a certain "ah" that we internalize. One branch compliments the other. It is much like wearing matching jewelry or color-coordinated clothes. It feels right. Religions could stand to use some redecorating by introducing it to a enormous splash of religious freedom that includes the ability to ask questions. The right to ask them has always been there, but every time it's exercised, practitioners have been conditioned away from it with a ruler-slap on the knuckles. Welcoming the paradigm shift. A few religious institutions play with the notion of creativity and the free exchange of thought, but hardly any of them embrace this adequately enough or do it any justice at all. Hence, I have had religious disappointment for years, in fact almost my whole life. I abandoned it entirely for a long time and called myself an atheist as a result! This went on until I encountered The Universal Life Church. The ULC is like no other church. There's no official walls. There's no strict doctrine, no dogma to inhibit spiritual creativity. In fact, people of all religious faiths, even non-faiths, are welcome. It's absolutely beautiful because it's so revolutionary. Imagine the creativity a diverse set of believers, and non-believers, could do for one another. It is like no other religious 'institution' in existence. I welcome you to take a peek at the ULC. There's a website at http://www.ulc.org and a newsgroup at alt.religion.universal-life that are worthy of further inspection. I must warn you that you will not recognize the ULC by the typical collection baskets, lessons of guilt and the beating of the proverbial drums in the name of increased church attendance. You will recognize it by the uniqueness that groups people from all different belief systems, even those who maintain a firm grasp on science and the scientific method. Maybe churches like the ULC can put an end to parroting and foster religious freedom. Note: There are exceptions to the statement that religions do not promote thought. Judaism has a tradition since its inception of questioning everything, including the existence of god. Islam had a great tradition of study of the natural world, based on the premise that it was god's creation, and that working towards understanding it was in itself a form of devotion. Medicine, astronomy, physics and especially mathematics were far more advanced in the Ottoman Empire than they were in Europe, where thought was tragically stunted by the church's demand for obedience. Not all religions demand ignorance. Mark Liberator The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:13 PM Subject: Raking leaves in a dog occupied area is stinky work If you are unable to summarize I understand. I have had pet dogs my entire life and have shoveled as much dog doo as anyone. I have found it is easier to toss out a little than a ton of it. Thus I prefer you to summarize your best point from Liberator.net instead of burying under tons of >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:40:17 -0500 > >If you are ill-equipped to handle the convincing articles at >www.liberator.net, I'll understand. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:20 PM >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? > > >Why can't you summarize? Are you not equipped to? I have so much frutiful >work to do than to get tricked into going to a porno web site. I told you >I >hate porno. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:09:40 -0500 > > > >Bill, I sing everytime a person takes a comparative religions or >philosophy > >course. Only then do people land up acquiring a deeper understanding of > >what it means to believe. > > > >You have been programmed into thinking that there is such a thing as sin, > >Bill, which drives you to the -- manmade -- gospels. If I am ever driven > >to > >learn from the thoughts, experiences and knowledge of others, I will > >certainly not throw myself back into a time machine by reading an > >antiquated > >source such as the Bible. > > > >= ) > > > >Can you try to respond to the web addresses I sent to you or will you >dodge > >them again? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 3:43 PM > >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? > > > > > >Somebody is "Grumpy"... Come on it is ok because Jesus loves you!!! Sing > >along and smile!!! I forgive you brother! All your sins can be washed > >away > >when you give your sins to the Lord! > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:41 PM > >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? > > > > > >Bill Bequette, you wrote: > > > >"Mark no need to be upset. When your upset just ask for God to step in >and > >you will be ok!" > > > >Should I ask Odin, Zeus or Ra for help too? > > > >= ) > > > >Who's upset? This is comical. > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 2:59 PM > >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? > > > > > >You see Bill, when you are losing an argument you call the other person a > >name like a freak. But if you are winning the argument it does not >bother > >you. > > > >I accept your concession Mark. > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:35:16 -0500 > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Life is 10% situations and 90% how you deal with it. Many people >choose > > >to > > >be miserable." > > > > > >Many people choose to believe in fairytales as a means of escapism: >enter > > >religion. > > > > > >"One of my mottos Bill, is listen to miserable and grumpy people, but > >don't > > >let them make you miserable and grumpy." > > > > > >One of my favorite past-times is to listen to Jesus freaks because >their > > >non-logic is a constant joke. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh05.mx.aol.com (rly-yh05.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.37]) by air-yh05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:58:33 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yh05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:57:57 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA00597; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:57:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <005201c03305$62dede40$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Raking leaves in a dog occupied area is stinky work Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:47:26 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: 10-Oct-00 14:58:36 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill Bequette, you wrote: "I have to agree with Bill. My hat is off to you guys! Watching embittered skeptics get nasty with me and my fellow brethren is great. It confirms everything the Bible says about atheists. Right on guys! Thanks for confirming my faith :) John 3:16" Yet you are skeptical of science... Did you ever think that your own words describe you quite well? BTW, who ssaid I was an atheist? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: We know for whom the Bell tolls Lets look at theings. The Book of Galatians (5:22)says the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. The deeds of the flesh include emnitiy, strife, angry, dissention, factions and envying. I have been around a long time and have met a lot of people. There are always exceptions, but over all there is no doubt this verse is true. Show me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person. Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness. Greg Laurie said once: even if Christianity were not true (and all four of us know it is true), it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial. Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote about 2000 years ago! Amen! Agape, Bill >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Chicken little was right! >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:38:28 -0500 > >Bill, the Bible is planted in truth? > >Ha.. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:31 PM >Subject: Chicken little was right! > > >Unhappiness.....that is the fruit that falls from a tree planted in lies >and >blooming toward hopelessness. > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:12:18 -0700 > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > An impartial judge has ruled: > > Bill 10 > > Liberal 0 > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > > >thought > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > > >ship > > > >in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > > >if > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and > >spend so > > > >much > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I >told > >you > > > >that > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find >it > > >quite > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so > >long. > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > > >easier > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get >a > >few > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > >Mark > > > >The Liberator > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile >at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (rly-yd03.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.3]) by air-yd01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:58:36 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:58:08 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA00604; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:57:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <005401c03305$65c905e0$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <006d01c032f8$8712ac40$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:59:33 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 15:00:20 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance to a Christian God than kids with Cancer. That's sad. I feel sorry for you and the God you worship. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side. So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance to a Christian God than kids with Cancer.
 
That's sad.  I feel sorry for you and the God you worship.
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Mark ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: Jock itch
If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Jock itch
I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more important than kids with cancer.  It must be sad for you to worship a petty God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side.  So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-za04.mx.aol.com (rly-za04.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.100]) by air-za05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:00:19 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-za04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:59:29 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA00795; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:59:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <005b01c03305$95bfc540$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <000e01c03300$cab8d020$052a03c7@liber8r> <014a01c03303$aad3ce60$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:01:03 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01C032DB.AC3A4360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: 10-Oct-00 15:04:50 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Totally False. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > > >in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > > >much > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told >you > > >that > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > >quite > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > >easier > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a >few > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible?
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Mark ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place?
Totally False.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place?
The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths.  You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   From: Bill Morgan > >   To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > >   Mark, I apologized.  Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > >   you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > >   >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > >   >in the first place? > >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > >   > > >   >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >   > > >   >"Mark:  why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > >   >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > >   >much > >   >time angry about it?" > >   > > >   >Bill, I didn't ignore it.  You must have missed the letter.  I told >you > >   >that > >   >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction.  In fact, I find it > >quite > >   >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > >   > > >   >= ) > >   > > >   >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories.  I guess it's > >easier > >   >than believing reality.  That's their call.  It's my right to get a >few > >   >chuckles out of it. > >   > > >   >Mark > >   >The Liberator > >   >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >   >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >   http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (rly-yc01.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.33]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:04:49 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:01:20 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA01023; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:01:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <006401c03305$d691b420$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <001301c03301$055ae240$052a03c7@liber8r> <014101c03303$9698f920$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:02:52 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01C032DB.ED0C3240" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: 10-Oct-00 15:06:27 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals. Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations. The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science. It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" >CC: , >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
"common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me....
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Morgan
Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM
Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals.  Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations.  The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science.  It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net> Cc: <billbeq@mediaone.net>; <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child.  this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <billbeq@mediaone.net>, <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb05.mx.aol.com (rly-zb05.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.5]) by air-zb03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:06:27 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zb05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:05:59 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA11886; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <015701c03305$c883ae60$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <004e01c03305$60ceea00$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:02:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0154_01C032CB.1AB39320" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo Date: 10-Oct-00 15:08:17 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, if you read any of it, you would be able to site examples. Did you read the article about Rev. Spong at the following address? http://liberator.net/articles/LiberatorMark/Spong.html Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo Bill have you read the stuff at his web site? I have. I disagree with it but I read a lot of it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:25 PM Subject: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo Bill, notice how my web addresses have been completely ignored? Here it is again: www.liberator.net/ulc/ Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: From goo to you by way of the zoo Notice how they avoid your simple origin of life question Bill? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:09:05 -0500 > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. It's >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan on >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange character >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other >atheists. God Bless you! >Bill > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > >>From: "Mark" > >>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>CC: > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >> > >>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >> > >>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>again. > >>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>simply > >>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >> > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-za02.mx.aol.com (rly-za02.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.98]) by air-za03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:08:16 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-za02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:06:51 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA01339; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:04:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <006a01c03306$3f97b0a0$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <000901c03300$8fcbf960$052a03c7@liber8r> <013801c03303$8799dca0$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:05:46 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: 10-Oct-00 15:08:23 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Babies. Children are proof of all the Bible's glorious wonders. Babies did not evolve from mud. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Totally False. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > > >in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > > >much > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told >you > > >that > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > >quite > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > >easier > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a >few > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Babies.  Children are proof of all the Bible's glorious wonders.  Babies did not evolve from mud.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place?
Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible?
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Mark ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place?
Totally False.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place?
The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths.  You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   From: Bill Morgan > >   To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > >   Mark, I apologized.  Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > >   you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > >   >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > >   >in the first place? > >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > >   > > >   >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >   > > >   >"Mark:  why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > >   >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > >   >much > >   >time angry about it?" > >   > > >   >Bill, I didn't ignore it.  You must have missed the letter.  I told >you > >   >that > >   >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction.  In fact, I find it > >quite > >   >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > >   > > >   >= ) > >   > > >   >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories.  I guess it's > >easier > >   >than believing reality.  That's their call.  It's my right to get a >few > >   >chuckles out of it. > >   > > >   >Mark > >   >The Liberator > >   >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >   >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >   http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (rly-yg03.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.3]) by air-yg04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:08:23 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:07:49 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA12890; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <016301c03306$085b5ec0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <001301c03301$055ae240$052a03c7@liber8r> <014101c03303$9698f920$6720113f@com> <006401c03305$d691b420$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:04:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0160_01C032CB.5B118A80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 15:09:52 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Your lucky God gave you the chance to feel sorry. Someday God will be judging you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance to a Christian God than kids with Cancer. That's sad. I feel sorry for you and the God you worship. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side. So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Your lucky God gave you the chance to feel sorry.  Someday God will be judging you. 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: Jock itch
Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance to a Christian God than kids with Cancer.
 
That's sad.  I feel sorry for you and the God you worship.
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Mark ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: Jock itch
If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Jock itch
I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more important than kids with cancer.  It must be sad for you to worship a petty God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side.  So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (rly-zd01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.225]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:09:51 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:08:45 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA13391; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <016d01c03306$29949e80$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <000e01c03300$cab8d020$052a03c7@liber8r> <014a01c03303$aad3ce60$6720113f@com> <005b01c03305$95bfc540$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:05:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_016A_01C032CB.7C53F200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: 10-Oct-00 15:10:16 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Oh no I am not skeptical of science. Science proves God exists. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:59 PM Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Bill Bequette, you wrote: "I have to agree with Bill. My hat is off to you guys! Watching embittered skeptics get nasty with me and my fellow brethren is great. It confirms everything the Bible says about atheists. Right on guys! Thanks for confirming my faith :) John 3:16" Yet you are skeptical of science... Did you ever think that your own words describe you quite well? BTW, who ssaid I was an atheist? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: We know for whom the Bell tolls Lets look at theings. The Book of Galatians (5:22)says the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. The deeds of the flesh include emnitiy, strife, angry, dissention, factions and envying. I have been around a long time and have met a lot of people. There are always exceptions, but over all there is no doubt this verse is true. Show me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person. Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness. Greg Laurie said once: even if Christianity were not true (and all four of us know it is true), it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial. Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote about 2000 years ago! Amen! Agape, Bill >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Chicken little was right! >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:38:28 -0500 > >Bill, the Bible is planted in truth? > >Ha.. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:31 PM >Subject: Chicken little was right! > > >Unhappiness.....that is the fruit that falls from a tree planted in lies >and >blooming toward hopelessness. > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:12:18 -0700 > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > An impartial judge has ruled: > > Bill 10 > > Liberal 0 > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > > >thought > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > > >ship > > > >in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > > >if > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and > >spend so > > > >much > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I >told > >you > > > >that > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find >it > > >quite > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so > >long. > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > > >easier > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get >a > >few > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > >Mark > > > >The Liberator > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile >at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Oh no I am not skeptical of science.  Science proves God exists.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls
Bill Bequette, you wrote: "I have to agree with Bill.  My hat is off to you guys!  Watching embittered skeptics get nasty with me and my fellow brethren is great.  It confirms everything the Bible says about atheists.  Right on guys!  Thanks for confirming my faith :)  John 3:16" Yet you are skeptical of science...  Did you ever think that your own words describe you quite well? BTW, who ssaid I was an atheist? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: We know for whom the Bell tolls Lets look at theings. The Book of Galatians (5:22)says the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. The deeds of the flesh include emnitiy, strife, angry, dissention, factions and envying. I have been around a long time and have met a lot of people.  There are always exceptions, but over all there is no doubt this verse is true.  Show me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person. Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness. Greg Laurie said once:  even if Christianity were not true (and all four of us know it is true), it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial. Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote about 2000 years ago!  Amen! Agape, Bill >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Chicken little was right! >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:38:28 -0500 > >Bill, the Bible is planted in truth? > >Ha.. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >To: <billbeq@mediaone.net>; <editor@liberator.net> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:31 PM >Subject: Chicken little was right! > > >Unhappiness.....that is the fruit that falls from a tree planted in lies >and >blooming toward hopelessness. > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:12:18 -0700 > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   From: Bill Morgan > >   To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > >   An impartial judge has ruled: > >   Bill 10 > >   Liberal 0 > > > > > >   >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > >   >ship in the first place? > >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > >   > > >   >10 points to Bill > >   >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   >   From: Bill Morgan > >   >   To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >   >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   >   Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > >   >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > >   >a ship in the first place? > >   > > >   > > >   >   Mark, I apologized.  Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >   >thought > >   >   you believed it was true just unappealling. > >   > > >   > > >   >   >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >   >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, ><billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >   >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > >   >ship > >   >   >in the first place? > >   >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > >   >   > > >   >   >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >   >   > > >   >   >"Mark:  why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > >   >if > >   >   >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and > >spend so > >   >   >much > >   >   >time angry about it?" > >   >   > > >   >   >Bill, I didn't ignore it.  You must have missed the letter.  I >told > >you > >   >   >that > >   >   >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction.  In fact, I find >it > >   >quite > >   >   >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so > >long. > >   >   > > >   >   >= ) > >   >   > > >   >   >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories.  I guess it's > >   >easier > >   >   >than believing reality.  That's their call.  It's my right to get >a > >few > >   >   >chuckles out of it. > >   >   > > >   >   >Mark > >   >   >The Liberator > >   >   >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >   >   >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >   >   > > >   > > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >   >http://www.hotmail.com. > >   > > >   >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile >at > >   >   http://profiles.msn.com. > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >   http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-za04.mx.aol.com (rly-za04.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.100]) by air-za02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:10:16 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-za04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:09:44 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA14086; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <017a01c03306$4d7f90c0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <006d01c032f8$8712ac40$6720113f@com> <005401c03305$65c905e0$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:06:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0177_01C032CB.A02C94C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 10-Oct-00 15:29:39 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@AOL.com Bill Morgan , you wrote: "I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any." What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an inherited genetic trait. "God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create such a thing? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects. That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (rly-yd01.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.1]) by air-yd02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:29:39 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.14) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:28:52 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA04356; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:28:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <006f01c03309$b603d2c0$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:30:35 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: 10-Oct-00 15:33:26 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, if you knew anything about science -- which you clearly do not -- you would know that science does not prove something. Science only suggests something to be true from current information thru theory. If new information should be found to discredit known information, then said theory would not be acceptable. This is the strength behind science. Unlike religious axioms, which are inflexible or take many generations to change, science changes as better information is received. = ) Bill, you are a comedy routine. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:06 PM Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Oh no I am not skeptical of science. Science proves God exists. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:59 PM Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Bill Bequette, you wrote: "I have to agree with Bill. My hat is off to you guys! Watching embittered skeptics get nasty with me and my fellow brethren is great. It confirms everything the Bible says about atheists. Right on guys! Thanks for confirming my faith :) John 3:16" Yet you are skeptical of science... Did you ever think that your own words describe you quite well? BTW, who ssaid I was an atheist? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: We know for whom the Bell tolls Lets look at theings. The Book of Galatians (5:22)says the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. The deeds of the flesh include emnitiy, strife, angry, dissention, factions and envying. I have been around a long time and have met a lot of people. There are always exceptions, but over all there is no doubt this verse is true. Show me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person. Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness. Greg Laurie said once: even if Christianity were not true (and all four of us know it is true), it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial. Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote about 2000 years ago! Amen! Agape, Bill >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Chicken little was right! >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:38:28 -0500 > >Bill, the Bible is planted in truth? > >Ha.. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:31 PM >Subject: Chicken little was right! > > >Unhappiness.....that is the fruit that falls from a tree planted in lies >and >blooming toward hopelessness. > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:12:18 -0700 > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > An impartial judge has ruled: > > Bill 10 > > Liberal 0 > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > > >thought > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > > >ship > > > >in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > > >if > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and > >spend so > > > >much > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I >told > >you > > > >that > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find >it > > >quite > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so > >long. > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > > >easier > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get >a > >few > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > >Mark > > > >The Liberator > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile >at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (rly-zc05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.5]) by air-zc01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:33:26 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:33:05 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA04843; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:32:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <007a01c0330a$4859ad20$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <006d01c032f8$8712ac40$6720113f@com> <005401c03305$65c905e0$052a03c7@liber8r> <017a01c03306$4d7f90c0$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:34:41 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 15:35:36 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, to follow your belief that God created the Universe and consequently my brain came to be, it would be immoral for me not to use it. I would be breaking God's law by not using it! = ) You should try it sometime and please your God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Your lucky God gave you the chance to feel sorry. Someday God will be judging you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance to a Christian God than kids with Cancer. That's sad. I feel sorry for you and the God you worship. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side. So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-ye04.mx.aol.com (rly-ye04.mail.aol.com [172.18.151.201]) by air-ye01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:35:35 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-ye04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:34:54 2000 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA05103; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:34:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <008001c0330a$8d5dd400$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <000e01c03300$cab8d020$052a03c7@liber8r> <014a01c03303$aad3ce60$6720113f@com> <005b01c03305$95bfc540$052a03c7@liber8r> <016d01c03306$29949e80$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:36:36 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Hey! How did it go from the 33rd and 34th time in one e mail Date: 10-Oct-00 15:37:06 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: DWise1@aol.com CC: billbeq@mediaone.net, editor@liberator.net The matter is resolved thanks! >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: >CC: , , >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:46:13 EDT > > >>You insulted my wife's faith in Christ and gave that as your reaosn for >not going to Denny's.<< > >No, I did not! If you truly believe that I did, then tell me WHAT I had >said so that I can find the actual message that you think you are talking >about. > >Stop simply repeating your accusations and SUBSTANTIATE THEM! Repeat what >you think you remember my wording to have been! Tell me as many of those >"very nasty names" you accuse me of having called you! > >This is the THIRTY-THIRD TIME that I am asking you for this information! >You cannot escape the truth, so stop trying to run away from it! > > > >>mr Wise.....give me your best explanation for the origin of life.<< > >So you're back to trying to create your damnable "rabbit trails" again! >Stop it! > >The correct response to your request is: I will answer that later, but >first I want an answer to my questions which you have never answered. > >If you have a problem with that response, then please explain what that >problem is. In case you do not recognize it, it is from your very own >teachings on dealing with somebody trying to use the dishonest "rabbit >trails" tactic. > >The answers that I am waiting for from you include those from over 80 >questions that you had not answered in our previous correspondence, as well >as a few more: > >1. Most pressing is the question of what you are accusing me of having >written. I cannot and will not accept the mere repeating of the >accusations. We must be able to use your answer to identify the actual >messages in question. > >You MUST give the actual insults and actual "very nasty names" to the very >best of your ability to remember. > >You MUST describe in detail the "bigoted attacks on [you] and [your] wife" >that I am supposed to have conducted. > >You MUST describe in detail my alleged statement that I thought you are >"some evil wicked person out to destroy society". > >You MUST describe in detail my alleged statement that I thought you are >"wacked for beleiving in God". > >You MUST describe in detail the insults I allegedly used in "[P]ersonally >insulting [you] on the level of a name calling 2nd grader." > >You MUST describe in detail the words I allegedly used in "[I]nsulting >[your] wife and [you]." > >You MUST describe in detail what words were used when my wife and I had >allegedly labelled you and your wife as evil. > >You MUST repeat the specific "very nasty names" that you accuse me of >having called you. This should be very easy for you to remember. Tell me, >was one of them a two-syllable, seven-letter word which also means >"rectum"? > >You MUST describe in detail the words I allegedly used when I had allegedly >told you "what [my] wife thought of those who beleive in Gid". > >You MUST describe in detail my alleged statement that I thought your and >your wife "are evil and wicked, the world's most sinister people". > >You MUST describe in detail my alleged statement that I refuse to meet you >because of your beliefs. > >You MUST describe in detail the words I allegedly used when I had allegedly >sent electronically "many nasty words that were anti religious". > >I was going to go easy on you and not bump the count, but forget that! You >do not deserve any leniency! This is the THIRTY-FOURTH TIME that I am >asking you for this information! > > >2. On 19 Aug 2000, you stated: >>I strongly disagree with [DWise1's] position, I have challenged >and attacked his position, I feel it is a weak position, but I gladly leave >the personal attacks out of it.<< > >I immediately responded: > >>Excuse me, Bill, but when have you ever "challenged and attacked >[my] position"? I cannot remember you ever doing any such thing in our >entire correspondence. Instead, you have a long and consistent history of >avoiding discussion by either laying down "rabbit trails" or by running >away from the topic. > >"For that matter, Bill, with all due respect, I do not believe that you >even know what my position is, even though I have presented it to you more >than once. And if you do not know what my position is, then how could you >consider it to be weak? And how could you challenge something that you >know nothing about? Let alone attack it? > >Could you please tell us all here what my position is? >Then could you please tell us all here, briefly, why you "strongly disagree >with [it]"? >Then could you please tell us all here, briefly, why you "feel it is a weak >position"? >Then could you please tell us all here how you "have challenged and >attacked [it]"? > >Curious minds want to know.<< > >Bill M, you never answered that question. I do believe that it is a very >fair and pertinent question and one which you should be quite able to >answer. It is pertinent because you have demonstrated an inability to >follow what is going on. I personally believe that you have no idea what >my position is, even though I have described several times and that you are >attributing to me some distorted fantasy of your own making. > > >For that matter, my questions to you are very different from your questions >to me. My questions to you are meant to be answerable (ie, there is a >definite answer and it should be well within your capabilities to provide >that answer), their purpose is to obtain needed or desired information, and >I do expect an answer. In contrast, your questions to me are meant to be >UNanswerable (ie, there is no definite answer and it is beyond the >capabilities of anybody to provide the answer), their purpose has nothing >whatsoever to do with obtaining information but rather to undermine your >opponent's position and prepare him for proselytizing or discredit him in >public or scare him off, and you do not really expect to get an answer. I >know for a fact that you do not really expect to get an answer, because I >have answered your other "unanswerable" questions to which your response >was to drop the whole subject; for a reminder and for Bill B's edification, >see my "BILL MORGAN'S "UNANSWERAB! >LE" QUESTIONS" page at http://me >mbers.aol.com/billyjack6/bills_questions.html . > > >I'm waiting for your answers, Bill M. You keep saying that you want to >please me. Well, answering my questions is the way for you to please me. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:37:06 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f81.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.81]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:36:26 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:36:25 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:36:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: DWise1@aol.com Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net, editor@liberator.net Subject: Hey! How did it go from the 33rd and 34th time in one e mail Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:36:25 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 22:36:25.0642 (UTC) FILETIME=[85F3F0A0:01C0330A] ################################################ Subj: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: 10-Oct-00 15:37:33 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, if you show me a scientific theory that states babies came from mud, I'll show you an invalid theory. Instead, your oversimplification of a known scientific theory is in error -- not the theory itself. If you learn more about science, you will appreciate it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:04 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Babies. Children are proof of all the Bible's glorious wonders. Babies did not evolve from mud. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Totally False. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > > >in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > > >much > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told >you > > >that > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > >quite > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > >easier > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a >few > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (rly-yg02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.2]) by air-yg04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:37:32 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:37:00 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA05301; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:36:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <008601c0330a$d4aa6440$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <001301c03301$055ae240$052a03c7@liber8r> <014101c03303$9698f920$6720113f@com> <006401c03305$d691b420$052a03c7@liber8r> <016301c03306$085b5ec0$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:38:36 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: 10-Oct-00 15:40:35 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy or some force external to the body. A negative genetic characteristic is one brought on by poor genetic pairing. SHeeesh.... Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. = ) The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. Sheeesh..... What are you some hick with one front tooth? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals. Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations. The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science. It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" >CC: , >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb03.mx.aol.com (rly-zb03.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.3]) by air-zb04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:40:35 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zb03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:40:08 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA05733; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:40:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <008c01c0330b$48a05da0$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <004e01c03305$60ceea00$052a03c7@liber8r> <015701c03305$c883ae60$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:41:50 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 10-Oct-00 15:41:56 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Read the word of GOD in the Bible then you will understand! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill Morgan , you wrote: "I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any." What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an inherited genetic trait. "God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create such a thing? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects. That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Read the word of GOD in the Bible then you will understand!
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From: Mark
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet?
Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: "I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any." What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an inherited genetic trait. "God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create such a thing? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question.  Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects.  That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> >To: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net <billbeq@mediaone.net>; DWise1@aol.com ><DWise1@aol.com> >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg05.mx.aol.com (rly-yg05.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.5]) by air-yg03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:41:56 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-yg05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:41:35 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA03842; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <018901c0330a$beb81b00$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <006f01c03309$b603d2c0$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:37:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0186_01C032D0.1101F060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: This issue has been resolved; I can see that Mr Wise is a fine man Date: 10-Oct-00 15:42:03 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: DWise1@aol.com, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: editor@liberator.net >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: >CC: , , >Subject: Re: No Grand Slam Breakfast >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:47:31 EDT > > >>30 times.... Gee whiz and slamming your wonderful wife. Now he has >insulted your good name and family. Comments?<< > >I'm sorry to have to tell you this, Bill B, but Bill M is lying to you yet >again. Here is what he said: > >>I answered him 30 times, he trashed my wife for being Christian >and said he did not want dinner because of our faith.<< > >First, I did NOT "[trash his] wife for being Christian". The very worst >thing I have ever said about his wife is that she is human and capable of >learning. That is it. > >Second, I did NOT "[say I] did not want dinner because of [their] faith." >I would never say such a thing. I gave Bill Morgan a very descriptive list >of why I would not have dinner with him and why I must absolutely refuse to >meet with him personally. His faith was not on the list. > >BTW, one major factor that makes it impossible for Bill M and me to meet >personally and which I have explicitly told him is the need to keep a >written record of exactly what was said. You have witnessed it too, where >Bill M's version of what happened is very different from what actually >happened, often the exact opposite. Sometimes he comes up with stuff that >had never happened! The only defense we have against Bill's imaginative >revisions of reality is the written record of what had actually been said. >In a personal or verbal meeting (eg, over the phone), there would be no >written record and it would be impossible to defend against Bill M's >creative revisions. Therefore, until such a time as Bill M can get a firm >grip on reality and stick to the truth, I could not possibly afford the >clear and present dangers of a meeting with him sans transcript. > > >Third, Bill M has NEVER answered my requests that he substantiate his >accusations. NEVER, NOT EVEN ONCE! He has done no more than to REPEAT his >accusations, which are devoid of information. Even though I have >REPEATEDLY explained to him that we need to know the ACTUAL WORDING of the >alleged statements that he accuses me of having written, so that we can >identify the messages in question and examine what they ACTUALLY say. For >the same reason and with the same explanation, I have REPEATEDLY asked Bill >M for the "very nasty names" that he accuses me of having called him. Bill >Morgan REFUSES to answer and has steadfastly refused to answer for TEN >WEEKS. And by telling you that he has "answered [me] 30 times", Bill >Morgan is lying through his teeth. He KNOWS what information we need from >him and he will do anything he can to prevent us from getting that >information, including lying to his own friend. > >Fourth, just where did Bill get that figure of "30 times"? He's always >whining that he doesn't keep any copies of his correspondence (even though >since 21 August 2000 he has had a complete copy of our correspondence). I >have kept a copy and I did a count of how many times I have asked for >information that substantiates his accusations. I know that I have asked >for that information for AT LEAST 30 times (I could have missed some in >that tally, plus I have asked for it a few more times since this message to >which I am replying was posted). Bill B, why don't you ask Bill M just how >he came up with that count of "30 times"? > > >Bill Morgan has never, ever answered my question, most certainly NOT "30 >times". Most of the time he just ignores it. The rest of the time he >either simply repeats the accusation or he tries yet another "rabbit >trails" ploy. Without going through a rigourous count, I would say that >Bill has repeated his accusation maybe about a dozen times. Fifteen times >would be pushing it. But certainly it has not been any "30 times". Bill M >is just lying to you again. > > >Bill B, here again are the main accusations that Bill Morgan has made >against me. BTW, Bill M has verified that these are the accusations that >he made: > >1. Having conducted "bigoted attacks on [him] and [his] wife" >2. Thinking he is "some evil wicked person out to destroy society". >3. Thinking he is "wacked for beleiving in God". >4. "[P]ersonally insulting [him] on the level of a name calling 2nd >grader." >5. "[I]nsulting [his] wife and [him]. >6. That my wife and I had labelled him and his wife as evil. >7. Calling him "very nasty names." >8. That I had told him "what [my] wife thought of those who beleive in >Gid". >9. That I would think he and his wife "are evil and wicked, the world's >most >sinister people". >10. That I refuse to meet him because of his beliefs. >11. That I sent electronically "many nasty words that were anti religious". > >Bill B, for most of these accusations I have absolutely no idea what Bill M >is talking about or where he got those ideas from. For a few of them, I >suspect that I know which messages are involved, but they do not say what >Bill accuses them of saying. But I cannot take any action in the latter >cases until Bill allows me to make a positive identification and provides >me with his interpretation for comparison. > >You yourself have witnessed Bill M misunderstanding a message and jumping >to a wildly false conclusion and making a false accusation against me. You >witnessed him falsely accusing me of calling him a "pervert", whereas I was >warning him that his actions on-line fit the profile of Internet sexual >predators and that he should change his actions in order to prevent being >falsely labelled as a pervert. You witnessed him falsely accusing me of >calling him an "idiot", whereas I was actually telling him I know that he >is NOT an idiot, yet he keeps ACTING like an idiot, which makes it >impossible to deal with him. In both case, when confronted with the facts, >with the actual text, Bill Morgan's response was to drop the matter >altogether, which is his usual response when he can no longer avoid the >fact that he was dead wrong. > >BTW, every time that Bill Morgan believed that he had gotten the better of >me, he would go into this kind of verbal dance for joy, all the while >mocking me and verbally thumbing his nose at me. You will notice that he >is not doing that. He knows that I am right to demand that he substantiate >his accusations against me and he does not want to. I believe that he >realizes that his accusations against me are groundless and false and he >will do anything he can to avoid having to face that truth. > >Here yet again is what Bill Morgan needs to do. He needs to provide us >with sufficiently detailed descriptions of the insults and "very nasty >names" and other statements that he is accusing me of having written. That >description must be detailed enough to identify the actual messages that he >claims he is drawing these accusations from. We need to identify those >messages so that we can examine the facts of the matter. We need to >examine what those messages ACTUALLY say in order to determine whether Bill >Morgan's accusations are warranted. Only in this way can we arrive at the >truth of the matter. > >Please note that Bill Morgan has been working diligently for the past TEN >WEEKS to prevent us from examining the facts, whereas *I* have been working >diligently for that same period of time to PERMIT us TO examine the facts. >I want us to arrive at the truth, whereas Bill Morgan is preventing us from >arriving at the truth. That right there should tell you a lot about the >situation. > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:42:02 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f232.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.232]) by rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:41:41 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:41:40 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:41:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: DWise1@aol.com, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: editor@liberator.net Subject: This issue has been resolved; I can see that Mr Wise is a fine man Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:41:40 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 22:41:40.0491 (UTC) FILETIME=[419E15B0:01C0330B] ################################################ Subj: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: 10-Oct-00 15:42:11 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Bill, Sagan is proof that you are wrong. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:39 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka That's ok there are no aethists in foxholes. When old age and death approach watch these guys become Christians fast!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:33 PM Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his anger and frustration. Something in his life did not work out as planned (welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist at God. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining. Once >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from all >the religions and philosophies that are available. > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > >= ) > >Thinking for the both of us, > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >Mark, >You would be a great Christian. With all the energy you spend talking >about >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in >convalescent homes. God Bless you, Bill > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists. God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >>help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >>itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > >>P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >>admitting defeat so easily? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Bequette > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >>Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Morgan > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >> > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >>Life Mist da Mark. > >> > >> > >>>From: "Mark" > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>>CC: > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >>> > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >>> > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >>> > >>>= ) > >>> > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>>again. > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>>simply > >>>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >>> > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >>> > >>>Mark > >>>The Liberator > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >>> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >> > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (rly-zb02.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.2]) by air-zb04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:42:11 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:41:40 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA05996; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:41:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <009401c0330b$7ec6f9c0$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <00d501c032fa$41555ca0$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:43:21 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: This issue has been resolved; I can see that Mr Wise is a fine man Date: 10-Oct-00 15:42:03 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: DWise1@aol.com, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: editor@liberator.net >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: >CC: , , >Subject: Re: No Grand Slam Breakfast >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:47:31 EDT > > >>30 times.... Gee whiz and slamming your wonderful wife. Now he has >insulted your good name and family. Comments?<< > >I'm sorry to have to tell you this, Bill B, but Bill M is lying to you yet >again. Here is what he said: > >>I answered him 30 times, he trashed my wife for being Christian >and said he did not want dinner because of our faith.<< > >First, I did NOT "[trash his] wife for being Christian". The very worst >thing I have ever said about his wife is that she is human and capable of >learning. That is it. > >Second, I did NOT "[say I] did not want dinner because of [their] faith." >I would never say such a thing. I gave Bill Morgan a very descriptive list >of why I would not have dinner with him and why I must absolutely refuse to >meet with him personally. His faith was not on the list. > >BTW, one major factor that makes it impossible for Bill M and me to meet >personally and which I have explicitly told him is the need to keep a >written record of exactly what was said. You have witnessed it too, where >Bill M's version of what happened is very different from what actually >happened, often the exact opposite. Sometimes he comes up with stuff that >had never happened! The only defense we have against Bill's imaginative >revisions of reality is the written record of what had actually been said. >In a personal or verbal meeting (eg, over the phone), there would be no >written record and it would be impossible to defend against Bill M's >creative revisions. Therefore, until such a time as Bill M can get a firm >grip on reality and stick to the truth, I could not possibly afford the >clear and present dangers of a meeting with him sans transcript. > > >Third, Bill M has NEVER answered my requests that he substantiate his >accusations. NEVER, NOT EVEN ONCE! He has done no more than to REPEAT his >accusations, which are devoid of information. Even though I have >REPEATEDLY explained to him that we need to know the ACTUAL WORDING of the >alleged statements that he accuses me of having written, so that we can >identify the messages in question and examine what they ACTUALLY say. For >the same reason and with the same explanation, I have REPEATEDLY asked Bill >M for the "very nasty names" that he accuses me of having called him. Bill >Morgan REFUSES to answer and has steadfastly refused to answer for TEN >WEEKS. And by telling you that he has "answered [me] 30 times", Bill >Morgan is lying through his teeth. He KNOWS what information we need from >him and he will do anything he can to prevent us from getting that >information, including lying to his own friend. > >Fourth, just where did Bill get that figure of "30 times"? He's always >whining that he doesn't keep any copies of his correspondence (even though >since 21 August 2000 he has had a complete copy of our correspondence). I >have kept a copy and I did a count of how many times I have asked for >information that substantiates his accusations. I know that I have asked >for that information for AT LEAST 30 times (I could have missed some in >that tally, plus I have asked for it a few more times since this message to >which I am replying was posted). Bill B, why don't you ask Bill M just how >he came up with that count of "30 times"? > > >Bill Morgan has never, ever answered my question, most certainly NOT "30 >times". Most of the time he just ignores it. The rest of the time he >either simply repeats the accusation or he tries yet another "rabbit >trails" ploy. Without going through a rigourous count, I would say that >Bill has repeated his accusation maybe about a dozen times. Fifteen times >would be pushing it. But certainly it has not been any "30 times". Bill M >is just lying to you again. > > >Bill B, here again are the main accusations that Bill Morgan has made >against me. BTW, Bill M has verified that these are the accusations that >he made: > >1. Having conducted "bigoted attacks on [him] and [his] wife" >2. Thinking he is "some evil wicked person out to destroy society". >3. Thinking he is "wacked for beleiving in God". >4. "[P]ersonally insulting [him] on the level of a name calling 2nd >grader." >5. "[I]nsulting [his] wife and [him]. >6. That my wife and I had labelled him and his wife as evil. >7. Calling him "very nasty names." >8. That I had told him "what [my] wife thought of those who beleive in >Gid". >9. That I would think he and his wife "are evil and wicked, the world's >most >sinister people". >10. That I refuse to meet him because of his beliefs. >11. That I sent electronically "many nasty words that were anti religious". > >Bill B, for most of these accusations I have absolutely no idea what Bill M >is talking about or where he got those ideas from. For a few of them, I >suspect that I know which messages are involved, but they do not say what >Bill accuses them of saying. But I cannot take any action in the latter >cases until Bill allows me to make a positive identification and provides >me with his interpretation for comparison. > >You yourself have witnessed Bill M misunderstanding a message and jumping >to a wildly false conclusion and making a false accusation against me. You >witnessed him falsely accusing me of calling him a "pervert", whereas I was >warning him that his actions on-line fit the profile of Internet sexual >predators and that he should change his actions in order to prevent being >falsely labelled as a pervert. You witnessed him falsely accusing me of >calling him an "idiot", whereas I was actually telling him I know that he >is NOT an idiot, yet he keeps ACTING like an idiot, which makes it >impossible to deal with him. In both case, when confronted with the facts, >with the actual text, Bill Morgan's response was to drop the matter >altogether, which is his usual response when he can no longer avoid the >fact that he was dead wrong. > >BTW, every time that Bill Morgan believed that he had gotten the better of >me, he would go into this kind of verbal dance for joy, all the while >mocking me and verbally thumbing his nose at me. You will notice that he >is not doing that. He knows that I am right to demand that he substantiate >his accusations against me and he does not want to. I believe that he >realizes that his accusations against me are groundless and false and he >will do anything he can to avoid having to face that truth. > >Here yet again is what Bill Morgan needs to do. He needs to provide us >with sufficiently detailed descriptions of the insults and "very nasty >names" and other statements that he is accusing me of having written. That >description must be detailed enough to identify the actual messages that he >claims he is drawing these accusations from. We need to identify those >messages so that we can examine the facts of the matter. We need to >examine what those messages ACTUALLY say in order to determine whether Bill >Morgan's accusations are warranted. Only in this way can we arrive at the >truth of the matter. > >Please note that Bill Morgan has been working diligently for the past TEN >WEEKS to prevent us from examining the facts, whereas *I* have been working >diligently for that same period of time to PERMIT us TO examine the facts. >I want us to arrive at the truth, whereas Bill Morgan is preventing us from >arriving at the truth. That right there should tell you a lot about the >situation. > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:42:02 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f232.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.232]) by rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:41:41 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:41:40 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:41:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: DWise1@aol.com, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: editor@liberator.net Subject: This issue has been resolved; I can see that Mr Wise is a fine man Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:41:40 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 22:41:40.0491 (UTC) FILETIME=[419E15B0:01C0330B] ################################################ Subj: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: 10-Oct-00 15:42:11 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Bill, Sagan is proof that you are wrong. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:39 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka That's ok there are no aethists in foxholes. When old age and death approach watch these guys become Christians fast!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:33 PM Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his anger and frustration. Something in his life did not work out as planned (welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist at God. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining. Once >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from all >the religions and philosophies that are available. > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > >= ) > >Thinking for the both of us, > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >Mark, >You would be a great Christian. With all the energy you spend talking >about >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in >convalescent homes. God Bless you, Bill > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists. God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >>help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >>itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > >>P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >>admitting defeat so easily? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Bequette > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >>Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Morgan > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >> > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >>Life Mist da Mark. > >> > >> > >>>From: "Mark" > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>>CC: > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >>> > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >>> > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >>> > >>>= ) > >>> > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>>again. > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>>simply > >>>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >>> > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >>> > >>>Mark > >>>The Liberator > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >>> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >> > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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They believe they evolved from chimps. What can I do with someone who thinks they are a monkeys uncle? :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:30 PM Subject: From goo to you by way of the zoo Notice how they avoid your simple origin of life question Bill? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:09:05 -0500 > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. It's >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan on >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange character >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other >atheists. God Bless you! >Bill > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > >>From: "Mark" > >>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>CC: > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >> > >>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >> > >>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>again. > >>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>simply > >>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >> > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net
Cc: DWise1@AOL.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo
Of course.  They believe they evolved from chimps.  What can I do with someone who thinks they are a monkeys uncle? :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:30 PM
Subject: From goo to you by way of the zoo
Notice how they avoid your simple origin of life question Bill? >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:09:05 -0500 > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it.  It's your >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities.  It's >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too.  BTW, >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying.  You keep on burying >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better.  Some people can't >handle >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan on >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath >[see Numbers 15:32-37].  The Christian God is one helluva strange character >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >That's ok.  I will stick with my belief system.  I am proud to be a >Christian and always will be.  I will pray for you and all the other >atheists.  God Bless you! >Bill > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> >To: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net>; Bill Morgan ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: DWise1@aol.com <DWise1@aol.com> >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for > >help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side.  So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > >>From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >>To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >>CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >> > >>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >> > >>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > >>again. > >>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>simply > >>too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > >> > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc02.mx.aol.com (rly-zc02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.2]) by air-zc04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:43:02 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zc02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:42:30 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06066; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:42:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <009d01c0330b$9a88fe60$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <00ab01c032f9$c9c5c1c0$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:44:08 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009A_01C032E1.B1037C80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: I knew Peter Sellers..You are no Peter Sellers Date: 10-Oct-00 15:43:34 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, DWise1@aol.com, billbeq@mediaone.net If you guys had mentioned giving me a Moe Howard hair cut I would have laughed. Is being humorless a prerequisite to being atheist? >From: "Mark" >To: , >CC: , >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:35:10 -0500 > >Did you really expect anything else from these 'religious' guys? > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Cc: ; ; >Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:42 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > >>I envision giving Mark a Moe-Howard haircut and David a Larry-Howard >haircut. Is that acceptable?<< > >So, behind your persistent overtures of friendship lies your true ulterior >motives to pull dirty tricks to pull on us and to humiliate us. You strive >to gain our trust, just so you can betray that trust. > >Thank you for your Christian witness. And you wonder why the popularity of >Christians is so low (or at least the conservative Christian propaganda >machinery keeps complaining that it is). That Trojan-Horse proverb should >be changed to: "Beware of Christians professing friendship." I am also >reminded of what the Bible says about wolves in sheep's clothing. Which >then reminds me of a speaker drawing several parallels between the >Pharisees, as depicted in the New Testament, and the Fundamentalists of >today. > > >BTW, Moe and Joe were Howards and brothers. Larry was a Fine. [heard over >the PA system in one of their hospital routines: "Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. >Howard"] You should watch Biography more often. > >Trivia Question: Why did Larry Fine's parents have him learn the violin? > >True War Story: When I was sent to NCO Leadership School at Keesler AFB, >my >roommate met up again with a buddy from when they were stationed in >Germany. >They were both Stooges fans and, because they couldn't watch any Stooges >over there, they used to play through the routines themselves. As I >watched >them reminisce and run through some routines, this big sergeant (same rank >as us) came over and just quietly watched for a while. Then he opened his >wallet and pulled out his Official Three Stooges Fan Club card. For the >next two weeks, not only did I have all three of them re-enacting Stooges >routines all the time, but the local TV station played a 15-minute Stooges >program every morning before we went to class. Mandatory viewing. [One >short I hadn't seen before: The three try to sneak into the race track for >free by posing as members of the press, to which end they steal knobs from >the restroom to use as press buttons -- "Press" "Press" "Pull -- nyuk, >nyuk, >nyuk"] > > >PS >Your diabolical plot would not have worked. My hair is too short. > >PPS >We also have hair clippers. My wife used it to keep my hair trimmed when I >was on active duty ("when I was in the war" in Air-Force-speak). Before >that, I used to do my own hair with scissors and a razor comb. Trimming my >beard with scissors was no problem, except for when I nearly snipped my >ear-lobe off. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (rly-yg03.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.3]) by air-yg01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:43:33 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f40.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.40]) by rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:43:20 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:43:19 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:43:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, DWise1@aol.com, billbeq@mediaone.net Subject: I knew Peter Sellers..You are no Peter Sellers Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:43:19 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 22:43:19.0684 (UTC) FILETIME=[7CBDBC40:01C0330B] ################################################ Subj: Re: Hey! How did it go from the 33rd and 34th time in one e mail Date: 10-Oct-00 15:44:12 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), DWise1@aol.com CC: editor@liberator.net End of issue. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: DWise1@aol.com Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:36 PM Subject: Hey! How did it go from the 33rd and 34th time in one e mail The matter is resolved thanks! >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: >CC: , , >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:46:13 EDT > > >>You insulted my wife's faith in Christ and gave that as your reaosn for >not going to Denny's.<< > >No, I did not! If you truly believe that I did, then tell me WHAT I had >said so that I can find the actual message that you think you are talking >about. > >Stop simply repeating your accusations and SUBSTANTIATE THEM! Repeat what >you think you remember my wording to have been! Tell me as many of those >"very nasty names" you accuse me of having called you! > >This is the THIRTY-THIRD TIME that I am asking you for this information! >You cannot escape the truth, so stop trying to run away from it! > > > >>mr Wise.....give me your best explanation for the origin of life.<< > >So you're back to trying to create your damnable "rabbit trails" again! >Stop it! > >The correct response to your request is: I will answer that later, but >first I want an answer to my questions which you have never answered. > >If you have a problem with that response, then please explain what that >problem is. In case you do not recognize it, it is from your very own >teachings on dealing with somebody trying to use the dishonest "rabbit >trails" tactic. > >The answers that I am waiting for from you include those from over 80 >questions that you had not answered in our previous correspondence, as well >as a few more: > >1. Most pressing is the question of what you are accusing me of having >written. I cannot and will not accept the mere repeating of the >accusations. We must be able to use your answer to identify the actual >messages in question. > >You MUST give the actual insults and actual "very nasty names" to the very >best of your ability to remember. > >You MUST describe in detail the "bigoted attacks on [you] and [your] wife" >that I am supposed to have conducted. > >You MUST describe in detail my alleged statement that I thought you are >"some evil wicked person out to destroy society". > >You MUST describe in detail my alleged statement that I thought you are >"wacked for beleiving in God". > >You MUST describe in detail the insults I allegedly used in "[P]ersonally >insulting [you] on the level of a name calling 2nd grader." > >You MUST describe in detail the words I allegedly used in "[I]nsulting >[your] wife and [you]." > >You MUST describe in detail what words were used when my wife and I had >allegedly labelled you and your wife as evil. > >You MUST repeat the specific "very nasty names" that you accuse me of >having called you. This should be very easy for you to remember. Tell me, >was one of them a two-syllable, seven-letter word which also means >"rectum"? > >You MUST describe in detail the words I allegedly used when I had allegedly >told you "what [my] wife thought of those who beleive in Gid". > >You MUST describe in detail my alleged statement that I thought your and >your wife "are evil and wicked, the world's most sinister people". > >You MUST describe in detail my alleged statement that I refuse to meet you >because of your beliefs. > >You MUST describe in detail the words I allegedly used when I had allegedly >sent electronically "many nasty words that were anti religious". > >I was going to go easy on you and not bump the count, but forget that! You >do not deserve any leniency! This is the THIRTY-FOURTH TIME that I am >asking you for this information! > > >2. On 19 Aug 2000, you stated: >>I strongly disagree with [DWise1's] position, I have challenged >and attacked his position, I feel it is a weak position, but I gladly leave >the personal attacks out of it.<< > >I immediately responded: > >>Excuse me, Bill, but when have you ever "challenged and attacked >[my] position"? I cannot remember you ever doing any such thing in our >entire correspondence. Instead, you have a long and consistent history of >avoiding discussion by either laying down "rabbit trails" or by running >away from the topic. > >"For that matter, Bill, with all due respect, I do not believe that you >even know what my position is, even though I have presented it to you more >than once. And if you do not know what my position is, then how could you >consider it to be weak? And how could you challenge something that you >know nothing about? Let alone attack it? > >Could you please tell us all here what my position is? >Then could you please tell us all here, briefly, why you "strongly disagree >with [it]"? >Then could you please tell us all here, briefly, why you "feel it is a weak >position"? >Then could you please tell us all here how you "have challenged and >attacked [it]"? > >Curious minds want to know.<< > >Bill M, you never answered that question. I do believe that it is a very >fair and pertinent question and one which you should be quite able to >answer. It is pertinent because you have demonstrated an inability to >follow what is going on. I personally believe that you have no idea what >my position is, even though I have described several times and that you are >attributing to me some distorted fantasy of your own making. > > >For that matter, my questions to you are very different from your questions >to me. My questions to you are meant to be answerable (ie, there is a >definite answer and it should be well within your capabilities to provide >that answer), their purpose is to obtain needed or desired information, and >I do expect an answer. In contrast, your questions to me are meant to be >UNanswerable (ie, there is no definite answer and it is beyond the >capabilities of anybody to provide the answer), their purpose has nothing >whatsoever to do with obtaining information but rather to undermine your >opponent's position and prepare him for proselytizing or discredit him in >public or scare him off, and you do not really expect to get an answer. I >know for a fact that you do not really expect to get an answer, because I >have answered your other "unanswerable" questions to which your response >was to drop the whole subject; for a reminder and for Bill B's edification, >see my "BILL MORGAN'S "UNANSWERAB! >LE" QUESTIONS" page at http://me >mbers.aol.com/billyjack6/bills_questions.html . > > >I'm waiting for your answers, Bill M. You keep saying that you want to >please me. Well, answering my questions is the way for you to please me. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
End of issue. 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: DWise1@aol.com
Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:36 PM
Subject: Hey! How did it go from the 33rd and 34th time in one e mail
The matter is resolved thanks! >From: DWise1@aol.com >To: <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net>, <editor@liberator.net> >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:46:13 EDT > > >>You insulted my wife's faith in Christ and gave that as your reaosn for >not going to Denny's.<< > >No, I did not!  If you truly believe that I did, then tell me WHAT I had >said so that I can find the actual message that you think you are talking >about. > >Stop simply repeating your accusations and SUBSTANTIATE THEM!  Repeat what >you think you remember my wording to have been!  Tell me as many of those >"very nasty names" you accuse me of having called you! > >This is the THIRTY-THIRD TIME that I am asking you for this information!  >You cannot escape the truth, so stop trying to run away from it! > > > >>mr Wise.....give me your best explanation for the origin of life.<< > >So you're back to trying to create your damnable "rabbit trails" again!  >Stop it! > >The correct response to your request is:  I will answer that later, but >first I want an answer to my questions which you have never answered. > >If you have a problem with that response, then please explain what that >problem is.  In case you do not recognize it, it is from your very own >teachings on dealing with somebody trying to use the dishonest "rabbit >trails" tactic. > >The answers that I am waiting for from you include those from over 80 >questions that you had not answered in our previous correspondence, as well >as a few more: > >1. Most pressing is the question of what you are accusing me of having >written.  I cannot and will not accept the mere repeating of the >accusations.  We must be able to use your answer to identify the actual >messages in question. > >You MUST give the actual insults and actual "very nasty names" to the very >best of your ability to remember. > >You MUST describe in detail the "bigoted attacks on [you] and [your] wife" >that I am supposed to have conducted. > >You MUST describe in detail my alleged statement that I thought you are >"some evil wicked person out to destroy society". > >You MUST describe in detail my alleged statement that I thought you are >"wacked for beleiving in God". > >You MUST describe in detail the insults I allegedly used in "[P]ersonally >insulting [you] on the level of a name calling 2nd grader." > >You MUST describe in detail the words I allegedly used in "[I]nsulting >[your] wife and [you]." > >You MUST describe in detail what words were used when my wife and I had >allegedly labelled you and your wife as evil. > >You MUST repeat the specific "very nasty names" that you accuse me of >having called you.  This should be very easy for you to remember.  Tell me, >was one of them a two-syllable, seven-letter word which also means >"rectum"? > >You MUST describe in detail the words I allegedly used when I had allegedly >told you "what [my] wife thought of those who beleive in Gid". > >You MUST describe in detail my alleged statement that I thought your and >your wife "are evil and wicked, the world's most sinister people". > >You MUST describe in detail my alleged statement that I refuse to meet you >because of your beliefs. > >You MUST describe in detail the words I allegedly used when I had allegedly >sent electronically "many nasty words that were anti religious". > >I was going to go easy on you and not bump the count, but forget that!  You >do not deserve any leniency!  This is the THIRTY-FOURTH TIME that I am >asking you for this information! > > >2. On 19 Aug 2000, you stated: ><Bill M>>I strongly disagree with [DWise1's] position, I have challenged >and attacked his position, I feel it is a weak position, but I gladly leave >the personal attacks out of it.<< > >I immediately responded: > ><DWise1>>Excuse me, Bill, but when have you ever "challenged and attacked >[my] position"?  I cannot remember you ever doing any such thing in our >entire correspondence.  Instead, you have a long and consistent history of >avoiding discussion by either laying down "rabbit trails" or by running >away from the topic. > >"For that matter, Bill, with all due respect, I do not believe that you >even know what my position is, even though I have presented it to you more >than once.  And if you do not know what my position is, then how could you >consider it to be weak?  And how could you challenge something that you >know nothing about?  Let alone attack it? > >Could you please tell us all here what my position is? >Then could you please tell us all here, briefly, why you "strongly disagree >with [it]"? >Then could you please tell us all here, briefly, why you "feel it is a weak >position"? >Then could you please tell us all here how you "have challenged and >attacked [it]"? > >Curious minds want to know.<< > >Bill M, you never answered that question.  I do believe that it is a very >fair and pertinent question and one which you should be quite able to >answer.  It is pertinent because you have demonstrated an inability to >follow what is going on.  I personally believe that you have no idea what >my position is, even though I have described several times and that you are >attributing to me some distorted fantasy of your own making. > > >For that matter, my questions to you are very different from your questions >to me.  My questions to you are meant to be answerable (ie, there is a >definite answer and it should be well within your capabilities to provide >that answer), their purpose is to obtain needed or desired information, and >I do expect an answer.  In contrast, your questions to me are meant to be >UNanswerable (ie, there is no definite answer and it is beyond the >capabilities of anybody to provide the answer), their purpose has nothing >whatsoever to do with obtaining information but rather to undermine your >opponent's position and prepare him for proselytizing or discredit him in >public or  scare him off, and you do not really expect to get an answer.  I >know for a fact that you do not really expect to get an answer, because I >have answered your other "unanswerable" questions to which your response >was to drop the whole subject; for a reminder and for Bill B's edification, >see my "BILL MORGAN'S "UNANSWERAB! >LE" QUESTIONS" page at http://me >mbers.aol.com/billyjack6/bills_questions.html . > > >I'm waiting for your answers, Bill M.  You keep saying that you want to >please me.  Well, answering my questions is the way for you to please me. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:44:12 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:43:41 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA05107; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <019201c0330b$08f05980$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Hey! How did it go from the 33rd and 34th time in one e mail Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:40:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_018F_01C032D0.5B6361C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: 10-Oct-00 15:44:32 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Bill Bequette, you wrote: "Nails, guns it don't matter. Look at what Christ did or more recently how the people in Yugoslavia rose up and over threw the corrupt regime. If you believe then good things will happen" Thanks for oversimplifying reality. The terms 'believe' and 'good' are so vague that they are useless. You don't believe in science. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > > >in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > > >much > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told >you > > >that > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > >quite > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > >easier > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a >few > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc03.mx.aol.com (rly-zc03.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.3]) by air-zc01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:44:32 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zc03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:44:03 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06296; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:43:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <00a501c0330b$d473f580$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <009f01c032f9$91e4a460$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:45:45 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: So if I were nicer you would both be born again? Date: 10-Oct-00 15:44:43 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, DWise1@aol.com CC: billbeq@mediaone.net >From: "Mark" >To: , >CC: >Subject: Re: What do dogs have bad dreams about? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:39:08 -0500 > >, you wrote: > >"You just don't get it, do you, Bill M? It is not Jesus himself that Mark >hates, but rather what those who call themselves his followers do, have >done, and intend to do. Whether Jesus was a fake or not really doesn't >matter; it's what Christians do that matters. And Mark doesn't like most >of >what he sees being done. Especially if your own witness is any indication. > >"I wish that Steve Schimmrich's site weren't closed for renovation so that >I >could get this quote and its source: 'Christians are the best case that >can >be made against Christianity' (quoted here from memory). And before you >shoot your mouth off from the hip, Steve is an evangelical Christian. He >is >talking about his treatment at the hands of fellow Christians, YECs who >have >viciously attacked him for not being a YEC and for pointing out glaring >factual errors in YEC teachings (he had just finished all the work on his >PhD Geology, last I heard)." > >That first paragraph was an excellent summary of my beliefs. The second >paragraph was interesting as well. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd04.mx.aol.com (rly-yd04.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.4]) by air-yd05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:44:43 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f49.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.49]) by rly-yd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:44:16 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:44:15 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:44:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, DWise1@aol.com Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net Subject: So if I were nicer you would both be born again? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:44:15 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 22:44:15.0592 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E109E80:01C0330B] ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 15:46:10 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Try praying!!! God loves you! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Bill, to follow your belief that God created the Universe and consequently my brain came to be, it would be immoral for me not to use it. I would be breaking God's law by not using it! = ) You should try it sometime and please your God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Your lucky God gave you the chance to feel sorry. Someday God will be judging you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance to a Christian God than kids with Cancer. That's sad. I feel sorry for you and the God you worship. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side. So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Try praying!!! God loves you!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Jock itch
Bill, to follow your belief that God created the Universe and consequently my brain came to be, it would be immoral for me not to use it.  I would be breaking God's law by not using it! = ) You should try it sometime and please your God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Your lucky God gave you the chance to feel sorry.  Someday God will be judging you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance to a Christian God than kids with Cancer. That's sad.  I feel sorry for you and the God you worship. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more important than kids with cancer.  It must be sad for you to worship a petty God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side.  So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:46:10 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:45:48 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA06221; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <01a401c0330b$53aedf00$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <000e01c03300$cab8d020$052a03c7@liber8r> <014a01c03303$aad3ce60$6720113f@com> <005b01c03305$95bfc540$052a03c7@liber8r> <016d01c03306$29949e80$6720113f@com> <008001c0330a$8d5dd400$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:42:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A1_01C032D0.A65441E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: 10-Oct-00 15:46:30 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Thanks for confirming what the Bible states and that is babies don't come from mud. Or rather "We are not one with the mud". Isn't that a REM song? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:38 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, if you show me a scientific theory that states babies came from mud, I'll show you an invalid theory. Instead, your oversimplification of a known scientific theory is in error -- not the theory itself. If you learn more about science, you will appreciate it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:04 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Babies. Children are proof of all the Bible's glorious wonders. Babies did not evolve from mud. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Totally False. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > > >in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > > >much > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told >you > > >that > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > >quite > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > >easier > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a >few > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Thanks for confirming what the
Bible states and that is babies don't come from mud.  Or rather "We are not one with the mud".  Isn't that a REM song?
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place?
Bill, if you show me a scientific theory that states babies came from mud, I'll show you an invalid theory.  Instead, your oversimplification of a known scientific theory is in error -- not the theory itself. If you learn more about science, you will appreciate it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:04 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Babies.  Children are proof of all the Bible's glorious wonders.  Babies did not evolve from mud. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Totally False. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths.  You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   From: Bill Morgan > >   To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > >   Mark, I apologized.  Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > >   you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > >   >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > >   >in the first place? > >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > >   > > >   >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >   > > >   >"Mark:  why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > >   >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > >   >much > >   >time angry about it?" > >   > > >   >Bill, I didn't ignore it.  You must have missed the letter.  I told >you > >   >that > >   >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction.  In fact, I find it > >quite > >   >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > >   > > >   >= ) > >   > > >   >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories.  I guess it's > >easier > >   >than believing reality.  That's their call.  It's my right to get a >few > >   >chuckles out of it. > >   > > >   >Mark > >   >The Liberator > >   >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >   >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >   http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:41:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0198_01C032D0.93EDDE80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: If Jesus did not exist, stop using his name in vain. Date: 10-Oct-00 15:47:22 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, DWise1@aol.com CC: billbeq@mediaone.net >From: "Mark" >To: , >CC: >Subject: Re: Bretheren and Fathers, hear my defense which I now offer to >you >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:45:19 -0500 > >Well put.... There's soooo many good points that to mention only a few >would be a disgrace. > >= ) > >Christians hate it when you point out the connections between their myth >and >Paganism. Many Christians do not realize that Christianity was in >competition with Paganism many, many years ago, which explains their close >similarities -- if you get what I mean. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Cc: ; ; >Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:38 PM >Subject: Re: Bretheren and Fathers, hear my defense which I now offer to >you > > > >>I am so happy to hear that at lease you used to celebrate the birth of >our >Savior, jesus christ!<< > >What are you talking about? Oh, you mean Saturnalia and Sol Invictus? >It's >the celebration of the Winter Solstice which got taken over by some young >upstart cult you may have heard of. Almost every Christmas symbol and >custom was taken from pagan traditions. The Christmas tree, yule log, >wassal, holly and misteltoe (the Resurrection God, Baldar, was killed by >the >misteltoe), Santa Claus (AKA "Wotan"), etc. Even the story of the Nativity >seems to have been lifted from the pagan traditions. All good >old-fashioned >Pagan traditions, absorbed and assimilated by the Christians. > >Actually, it's quite interesting how early Christianity absorbed and >assimilated the indiginous pagan religions as it spread. They did it again >when they conquered the New World. I wonder if Roddenberry (or Bergman -- >I'm not sure who was in charge at that point) had those earlier Christian >missionaries in mind when he came up with the Borg. > >Here's an interesting trivia question. The date of Christmas is based on >the date of the Winter Solstice. But if the Winter Solstice is on the >21st, >then why is Christmas on the 25th? There's nothing esoteric nor biblical >about the answer. > > > >>Give me that old time religion!<< > >Oh, I love that song! I'd like to share with you an extremely few of the >well-over 800 verses. Most of the rest of the verses can be found at "The >Official, Accept no Cheap Substitutes, Real Old Time Religion Page" at >http://www.locksley.com/vintage/realotr.htm : > >(Chorus): Give me that real old time religion (3X) > It's good enough for me! > >AGNOSTIC/ATHEIST CHORUS: Gimme NO kind-a religion > Gimme NO kind-a religion > Gimme NO kind-a religion > It simply ain't for me! > >Lots of folks are into God >And I've often thought it odd >Do they love Him for His bod'? >Or is it ideology? > >I don't care about Jehover >Soon his office term is over >I would sooner worship Rover >'Cause he's good enough for me! >[Bill M, I included this one in honor of the recent "What's 'dog' spelled >backwards?" subject line] > >It's the Fundie Right's solution >To put Christian absolution >In the U.S. Constitution >And that don't sit well with me! > >Jehovah's fine transcendence >And the Church's great resplendence >Pushing guilt and co-dependence >Ain't good enough for me! > >Let us all worship Reason >Cause it never goes out of season >And only it makes good predictions >And that's good enough for me. > >We will walk upon ol' Bifrost >Tell ol' Heimdall that we're not lost >Ask Odin what the runes cost >And hit Loki with a pie! > >I hear Valkyries a-comin' >In the air their song is comin' >They forgot the words! They're hummin'! >But they're good enough for me! > >Do you see the great God Tyr? >He's the one with that huge spear, >And with Fenrir's tooth-marks here >And I'm glad they're not in me. > >It was good for Thor and Odin >It was good for Thor and Odin >Grab an axe and get your woad on! >and it's good enough for me! > >We will worship now with vigor >The goddess known as Frigga >Tho there are some who don't dig her >She is good enough for me! > >We will sing a verse for Loki >He's the old Norse god of Chaos >Which is why this verse don't >rhyme or scan or nothin' >But it's good enough for me... > >All the Gods tore into Loki >Saying Deicide is hokey! >And they threw him in the pokey! >And that's good enough for me! > >One-eyed Odin we will follow >And in fighting we will wallow >Till we wind up in Valhallow >Which is good enough for me! > >We'll all worship mighty Odin >While he's busy there decodin' >All those runes he found a floatin' >And it's good enough for me... > >Now Thor, he's armed with Mjollnir >Why choose that, I've no idear >He should oughta use a spear >But a hammer's fine by me. > >We will go and sing "Hosanna" >To our good ol' pal, Gautama, >He will never flim or flam ya', >And that's good enough for me! > >Clap one hand if you love the Buddha >It will put ya in the mood ta >Set off for Nirvana >And that's good enough for me! > >To the tune of Handel's "Largo" >We will hymn the gods of Cargo >'Til they slap on an embargo >And that's good enough for me! > >Say the Baptists, "We're the only >We're the one church that's not phony >If you give us all your money >Then to Heaven you shall go! > >Tho J.C.'s into fish, too, >He's an avatar of Vishnu >So he is welcome here, too, >And that's good enough for me! > >All the Christians pray to Jesus >Every Sunday on their kneeses >Then they do just what they pleases >For the rest of every week. > >Oh the Christians worship Jesus >But their sermons sure don't please us >It's a Sin each time ya sneezes >That ain't good enough for me! > >Oh my name is Torquemada >I burn Luth'rans in Granada >It's all for the Holy Fadda >And it's good enough for me! > >Let us worship this Jehovah >All you other gods move ovah >Cause the One God's taking over >That sounds awful dull to me! > >Well you can worship Jesus >Go ahead and pray to Jesus >But I tell you, he don't please us >Just leave my Gods to me! > >It was good enough for Jesus >Though Paul's doctrine doesn't please us >We prefer a faith that frees us >And that's good enough for me > >To Prometheus let us hark >In bringing fire, he made his mark >Or we'd be dancing in the dark >And that's not good enough for me! > >It was good for lovely Artemis >Who'd like to get to the heart of us >She's glad to be a part of us >And she's good enough for me! > >We will go and worship Vesta >For her cooking is the best-a >All the food at the fiesta >Which is good enough for me! > >Let us sing to Mother Hera, >Papa Zeus had best beware-a, >'Cause his wife's a holy terror >That's good enough for me. > >We will worship old Apollo >He's got others beat all hollow >Let him lead and we will follow >And that's good enough for me! > >We're not crazy over Aries >For his men give us the scaries >And they kill like Christ's and Mary's >Which ain't good enough for me! > >At Troy nobody was mean-a >That the Great Goddess Athena >Mopped them up with Ajax clean-a >And that's good enough for me! > >We will sing for great Diana >Who will teach of love and honor >But you really gotta wanna! >'Cause she's tough enough for me! > >If you have the itchy-squirmies >Then you better pray to Hermes >He will cure you of your germies >And he's good enough for me! > >Oh I'm following the Tao >Here and there and then and now >But I cannot tell you how >And it's good enough for me! > >Oh the Welsh gods, -you- announce 'em >Asking my gods to renounce 'em >But our gods, I can't pronounce 'em >Being tongue-tied's not for me! > >I will worship the god Aton >Yes the good old sun-god Aton >Tho he's nearly been forgotton >He's good enough for me! > >Let us worship Lady Isis >For her virtues and her vices >Of the Gods she is the nices' >And that's good enough for me! > >Bumper stickers of all sizes >At quite reasonable prices >They say 'ankh' if you love Isis >And that's good enough for me! > >We will bow down to Osiris >At the blooming of the Iris >And he'll save us from the virus >Which is good enough for me! > >We will sing a song of Ra >He's the god without a flaw >If his humour's rather raw, >Still he's good enough for me! > >We will pray to Ra and Ammon >Just like Tutankhamen, >And teach our friends embalmin', >They're good enough for me. > >We will worship Holy Ford >Beta, Delta, Gamma, Lord >But the Alphas might get bored >A Brave New World for you and me! >[Bill M, a tribute to that mass of misscanned text on your site which you >still have not corrected -- God as "First Cause" got rendered as "First >CaR"] > >Let us question Deep Thought too >Let us question Deep Thought too >'Cause the answer's Forty-Two! >And it's good enough for me! > >We've decided you are naughty, >If you're not of Landru's body, >Though his robes get kind of shoddy, >They're good enough for me! > >Let us celebrate Jehovah >Who created us "ab ova" >He'll be on tonight on "Nova" >'Cause he's good enough for me! > >You can worship God Adonai >Be allowed few things to enjoy >I'd much rather be just a goy >More comfortable for me! > >And we'll even sing to Moses, >Though his law's no bed of roses. >Let him pay us what he owes us >That's good enough for me. > >We will all bow down to Enlil >We will all bow down to Enlil >Pass your Cup and get a refill! >With bold Gilgamesh the Brave! > >Oh the ancient goddess Nerthus >From herself the Earth did birth us >And I wonder: are we worth us? >But she's good enough for me! > >We will go and worship Baal >For he is the Lord of All >In the fields and in the hall >He is good enough for me! > >We will all bow down to Dagon >A conservative old pagan >He still votes for Ronald Reagan >And that's good enough for me! > >We will all be saved by Mithras >We will all be saved by Mithras >Slay the Bull and play the zithras >On that Resurrection Day! > >Oh we all will worship Mithras >Because he was born at Chrith-mas >And he doesn't know St. Dith-mas >And that's good enough for me! > >Sun Moon's kids are kind of funny >But they stick to him like honey >He just wants their souls and money >And it's good enough for him! > >We will worship with the Mormons >'Cause they're not like Martin Bormann >Into gods they'll be re-bornin' >And that's good enough for me! > >Let us join the Earth Spirits >Let us join the Earth Spirits >With the Earth they will heal us >And its good enough for me! > >Some folks worship the Kachinas >Some folks worship the Kachinas >They look like "deus ex machinas" >But they're good enough for me! > >Thanks to great Quetzacoatl >And his sacred axolotl >And his gift of chocolatl >And please pass some down to me! > >Let us worship like the Quakers >(silent) >(silent) >It's good enough for me. > >There are those who worship science >And some would send 'em to the lions >Without 'em we'd have no appliance >So they're good enough for me > >Ameratsu brought the light in >And love's bonds began to tighten >The whole world began to brighten >And that's good enough for me! > >If you come to practice Shinto >Make sure you know what they are into >You must praise each rock and lean-to >But they're good enough for me! > >WICCAN CHORUS: Gimme that real old time religion > Gimme that real old time religion > Don't gimme no new affliction > It's good enough for me... > >Let us worship mighty Gaea >Listen to what she has to say-a >She'll say, "take your trash away-a" >And that's good enough for me! > >After converts we're not chasing >And their money we're not fleecing >Still our numbers are increasing >And that's good enough for me! > >In the face of Inquisition >We maintained an Opposition >And preserved the Old Tradition >And that's good enough for me! > >When the blizzard is a-whirling >And the Yule log is a-burning >And the Sun God is returning >It is good enough for me! > >Come and join the celebration >Pour the Goddess a libation >You don't need initiation >And that's good enough for me! > >Those Evangelists all say >They possess the one true way >I'll take Wicca any day >And that's good enough for me! > >Through the endless night we shiver >Flames around the Yule log quiver >As we sing to praise the Giver >Of the Sun on Solistice morn! > >Pagans gather in the clearing >For the end of Winter's nearing >And the Maiden is appearing >Bringing promises of Spring! > >All the apple trees wassail >As we heft the flowing pail >A good cider mixed with ale >And that's good enough for me! > >We're all children of the Goddess >We're all children of the Goddess >She always fed and shod us >She is good to you and me! > >Give thanks to the Earth our Mother >Give thanks to the Earth our Mother >She'll care for us like no other >And she's good enough for me! > >I will keep the Maypole rites >Coupling in the fields all night >Just to keep the crops from blight >And that's good enough for me! > >I will keep the Yule >For to bring the year's renewal >Keep the kiddies home from school >And that's good enough for me > >Perfect love and perfect trust >We shall rise up from the dust >And become the upper crust >And that's good enough for me! > >When the red-necks say we're sinning >I don't care, 'cause we are winning >And this is only the beginning >And that's good enough for me! > >Our Familiar is black >With a white stripe down his back >When his tail goes up, make tracks, >'Cause it ain't perfumery! > >Our Bard is macrophonic >And he thinks he's so harmonic >But he's more like cacophonic >And he plays a mile off-key! > >When I first became a pagan >It was daring and outragin' >Now my Circle's started agin' >But they're good enough for me! > >We will worship Frey and Freya >Yao and Vesta, Lugh and Gaia >Any more? Perun! and Maia! >That's still not enough for me! > >I pray to Ahura-Mazda >He's one god who sure won't pause ta >Pound some heads when given cause ta >Which is good enough for me! > >It was good enough for Larry >It was good enough for Moe >It was good enough for Curly >Please don't poke me in the eye! > >If you want to start religions, >If you want to start religions, >You'll need temples, you'll need pigeons, >And that's good enough for me. > >We will all read Joseph Campbell >Who made order out of shambles >Tho he sometimes kinda rambles >He's good enough for me! > > >THE OBLIGATORY LAST VERSE(S) > >If you think these verses floor us >Then go write another chorus >Just as long as you don't bore us >Then it's good enough for me! > >It's the opera written for us! >We will all join in the chorus! >It's the opera about Boris, >Which is Godunov for me! > > >THE FINAL WORD > >We will bow down to John Boardman >Tho he's not a master swordsman >Verses of this song he hoards, man >And he's good enough for me! > >Joe Bethancourt's a swordsman >And he also is a Hordesman >And he'll sing 'til he gets bored, man >And he's good enough for me! > >Give a rest to old religion, >If only just a smidgen. >It's really not my pidgin, >Though it's good enough for you! > >If you want a new edition >Let its writing be -your- mission! >As for me, I'm goin' fishin'! >Or I'll go and watch TV! > > >(quoting directly from the web site) >THE ORIGINS OF "REAL OTR": > >John Boardman, the East Coast collector of this song, says in >_ANAKREON_ #8 (1 Nov., 1980): "So far, two different stories have >come in of how "That Real Old Time Religion" originated. Robin R. >Arnhold writes that "Lady Cybele" started it a decade or more ago, >and says that (five of the early verses) are of her composition, with >a chorus of "Give Me That Old Craft Religion." 'The first exposure to >people other than Madison-area pagans came when Lady Cybele sang some >of her songs in informal sessions at the Gnostica festivals in the >early 1970's.' " > >"But Allison Harlow claims that 'Victor Anderson, the blind shaman of >San Leandro...first began singing these verses; we taught the idea to >NROOGD and _Nemeton_, whence it caught on in the Mid-West...and >finally reached the East Coast.'" > >John writes further in _ANAKREON_ #12 (1 Nov. 1981): "Rus (Gulevitch) >has a resolution of the situation presented in _ANAKREON_ #8, in >which two different stories of the origin of "That Real Old Time >Religion" were presented:" > >" 'I've heard about Cybele being the originator of OTR, too,' he >wrote, 'But I also heard that several covens (who had no contact with >each other) got the same idea at different times, and Cybele is but >the one who first made it more or less public. Such things happen >often enough.' " > >To which I (Joe Bethancourt) can only add that I heard it in the >early 1970's and have been collecting, and enjoying it ever since. >It's gotten into the oral tradition in Science-Fiction Fandom, a >little into the SCA, and is being sung in the folkie community quite >a bit too.....which means we can -never- collect -all- the verses .... >it's a -living- traditional song. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd03.mx.aol.com (rly-zd03.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.227]) by air-zd01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:47:21 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f169.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.169]) by rly-zd03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:46:33 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:46:33 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:46:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, DWise1@aol.com Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net Subject: If Jesus did not exist, stop using his name in vain. Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:46:32 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 22:46:33.0150 (UTC) FILETIME=[F00E4DE0:01C0330B] ################################################ Subj: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Date: 10-Oct-00 15:47:38 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), DWise1@AOL.com I agree. Our DNA, even though we are 99+% that of chimps, is more distant than the uncle analogy would indicate. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Bill Morgan ; DWise1@AOL.com Cc: editor@liberator.net Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Buddy we are not monkey's uncles!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Cc: editor@liberator.net Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Buddy, they are too chicken to answer your sincere inquiry. trust me! >From: "Bill Bequette" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:38:40 -0700 > >Mr Wise what is your best explanation for the origin of life? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: DWise1@aol.com > Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > > You insulted my wife's faith in Christ and gave that as your reaosn for >not > going to Denny's. > > mr Wise.....give me your best explanation for the origin of life. > > > >From: DWise1@aol.com > >To: > >CC: , , > >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > >Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:30:14 EDT > > > > > > >>I love the intellectual thrust and parry with those of different > >opinions, I have no problem with that.....it is the greatest catalyst > >toward futher research....being challenged....<< > > > >Since when, Bill M? Both Mark and I have observed you in action since > >1996. We have watched you do everything you can to avoid discussion, > >including your favorite trick of laying down rabbit trails. > > > >But then we have not observed you with somebody who doesn't know what >is > >going on. I guess that would make a difference, because you only want >to > >be "challenged" when you can tap-dance rings around the other guy. But > >bring in somebody who knows something about creation science and you >duck > >and run. > > > > >>I just have a hard time with incessant insults and whining from >people > >who will remain nameless.<< > > > >Well, Bill M, if you would stop obstructing the search for truth then > >things would run a whole lot smoother. If only you weren't so afraid >of > >the truth. > > > >For the THIRTIETH TIME, Bill M, substantiate your accusations against >me! > >Tell us what you think I had said! > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
I agree.  Our DNA, even though we are 99+% that of chimps, is more distant than the uncle analogy would indicate.
 
Mark
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----- Original Message -----
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Buddy we are not monkey's uncles!!!
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide
Buddy, they are too chicken to answer your sincere inquiry.  trust me! >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <DWise1@aol.com> >CC: <editor@liberator.net> >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:38:40 -0700 > >Mr Wise what is your best explanation for the origin of life? >   ----- Original Message ----- >   From: Bill Morgan >   To: DWise1@aol.com >   Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >   Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:22 PM >   Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > >   You insulted my wife's faith in Christ and gave that as your reaosn for >not >   going to Denny's. > >   mr Wise.....give me your best explanation for the origin of life. > > >   >From: DWise1@aol.com >   >To: <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >   >CC: <billbeq@mediaone.net>, <editor@liberator.net>, <DWise1@aol.com> >   >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >   >Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:30:14 EDT >   > >   > >   > >>I love the intellectual thrust and parry with those of different >   >opinions, I have no problem with that.....it is the greatest catalyst >   >toward futher research....being challenged....<< >   > >   >Since when, Bill M?  Both Mark and I have observed you in action since >   >1996.  We have watched you do everything you can to avoid discussion, >   >including your favorite trick of laying down rabbit trails. >   > >   >But then we have not observed you with somebody who doesn't know what >is >   >going on.  I guess that would make a difference, because you only want >to >   >be "challenged" when you can tap-dance rings around the other guy.  But >   >bring in somebody who knows something about creation science and you >duck >   >and run. >   > >   > >>I just have a hard time with incessant insults and whining from >people >   >who will remain nameless.<< >   > >   >Well, Bill M, if you would stop obstructing the search for truth then >   >things would run a whole lot smoother.  If only you weren't so afraid >of >   >the truth. >   > >   >For the THIRTIETH TIME, Bill M, substantiate your accusations against >me! >   >Tell us what you think I had said! >   > > >   >_________________________________________________________________________ >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >   http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (rly-yh02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.34]) by air-yh04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:47:38 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:47:13 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06689; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:47:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <00b601c0330c$44e730c0$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" , References: <00bd01c032f9$f3f159a0$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:48:54 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C032E2.5B6AD6A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: 10-Oct-00 15:48:06 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Smarty pants! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:34 PM Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Bill, if you knew anything about science -- which you clearly do not -- you would know that science does not prove something. Science only suggests something to be true from current information thru theory. If new information should be found to discredit known information, then said theory would not be acceptable. This is the strength behind science. Unlike religious axioms, which are inflexible or take many generations to change, science changes as better information is received. = ) Bill, you are a comedy routine. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:06 PM Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Oh no I am not skeptical of science. Science proves God exists. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:59 PM Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Bill Bequette, you wrote: "I have to agree with Bill. My hat is off to you guys! Watching embittered skeptics get nasty with me and my fellow brethren is great. It confirms everything the Bible says about atheists. Right on guys! Thanks for confirming my faith :) John 3:16" Yet you are skeptical of science... Did you ever think that your own words describe you quite well? BTW, who ssaid I was an atheist? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: We know for whom the Bell tolls Lets look at theings. The Book of Galatians (5:22)says the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. The deeds of the flesh include emnitiy, strife, angry, dissention, factions and envying. I have been around a long time and have met a lot of people. There are always exceptions, but over all there is no doubt this verse is true. Show me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person. Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness. Greg Laurie said once: even if Christianity were not true (and all four of us know it is true), it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial. Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote about 2000 years ago! Amen! Agape, Bill >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Chicken little was right! >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:38:28 -0500 > >Bill, the Bible is planted in truth? > >Ha.. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:31 PM >Subject: Chicken little was right! > > >Unhappiness.....that is the fruit that falls from a tree planted in lies >and >blooming toward hopelessness. > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:12:18 -0700 > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > An impartial judge has ruled: > > Bill 10 > > Liberal 0 > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > > >thought > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > > >ship > > > >in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > > >if > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and > >spend so > > > >much > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I >told > >you > > > >that > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find >it > > >quite > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so > >long. > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > > >easier > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get >a > >few > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > >Mark > > > >The Liberator > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile >at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls
Bill, if you knew anything about science -- which you clearly do not -- you would know that science does not prove something.  Science only suggests something to be true from current information thru theory.  If new information should be found to discredit known information, then said theory would not be acceptable.  This is the strength behind science.  Unlike religious axioms, which are inflexible or take many generations to change, science changes as better information is received. = ) Bill, you are a comedy routine. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:06 PM Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Oh no I am not skeptical of science.  Science proves God exists. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:59 PM Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Bill Bequette, you wrote: "I have to agree with Bill.  My hat is off to you guys!  Watching embittered skeptics get nasty with me and my fellow brethren is great.  It confirms everything the Bible says about atheists.  Right on guys!  Thanks for confirming my faith :)  John 3:16" Yet you are skeptical of science...  Did you ever think that your own words describe you quite well? BTW, who ssaid I was an atheist? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: We know for whom the Bell tolls Lets look at theings. The Book of Galatians (5:22)says the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. The deeds of the flesh include emnitiy, strife, angry, dissention, factions and envying. I have been around a long time and have met a lot of people.  There are always exceptions, but over all there is no doubt this verse is true.  Show me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person. Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness. Greg Laurie said once:  even if Christianity were not true (and all four of us know it is true), it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial. Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote about 2000 years ago!  Amen! Agape, Bill >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Chicken little was right! >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:38:28 -0500 > >Bill, the Bible is planted in truth? > >Ha.. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >To: <billbeq@mediaone.net>; <editor@liberator.net> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:31 PM >Subject: Chicken little was right! > > >Unhappiness.....that is the fruit that falls from a tree planted in lies >and >blooming toward hopelessness. > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:12:18 -0700 > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   From: Bill Morgan > >   To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > >   An impartial judge has ruled: > >   Bill 10 > >   Liberal 0 > > > > > >   >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > >   >ship in the first place? > >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > >   > > >   >10 points to Bill > >   >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   >   From: Bill Morgan > >   >   To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >   >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   >   Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > >   >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > >   >a ship in the first place? > >   > > >   > > >   >   Mark, I apologized.  Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >   >thought > >   >   you believed it was true just unappealling. > >   > > >   > > >   >   >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >   >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, ><billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >   >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > >   >ship > >   >   >in the first place? > >   >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > >   >   > > >   >   >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >   >   > > >   >   >"Mark:  why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > >   >if > >   >   >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and > >spend so > >   >   >much > >   >   >time angry about it?" > >   >   > > >   >   >Bill, I didn't ignore it.  You must have missed the letter.  I >told > >you > >   >   >that > >   >   >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction.  In fact, I find >it > >   >quite > >   >   >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so > >long. > >   >   > > >   >   >= ) > >   >   > > >   >   >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories.  I guess it's > >   >easier > >   >   >than believing reality.  That's their call.  It's my right to get >a > >few > >   >   >chuckles out of it. > >   >   > > >   >   >Mark > >   >   >The Liberator > >   >   >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >   >   >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >   >   > > >   > > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >   >http://www.hotmail.com. > >   > > >   >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile >at > >   >   http://profiles.msn.com. > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >   http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:48:06 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:47:10 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA07070; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <01ad01c0330b$7e0b4ae0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <006d01c032f8$8712ac40$6720113f@com> <005401c03305$65c905e0$052a03c7@liber8r> <017a01c03306$4d7f90c0$6720113f@com> <007a01c0330a$4859ad20$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:43:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01AA_01C032D0.D0B0ADC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 10-Oct-00 15:48:38 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Praise the cerebrum that I was given. = ) Thinking for the two of us. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:40 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? PRAISE JESUS!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any. God made a nice clean defect free genetic code! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects. That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Praise the cerebrum that I was given.
 
= )
 
Thinking for the two of us.
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net
Cc: DWise1@AOL.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet?
PRAISE JESUS!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet?
I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any. God made a nice clean defect free genetic code! >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question.  Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects.  That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> >To: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net <billbeq@mediaone.net>; DWise1@aol.com ><DWise1@aol.com> >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (rly-zb02.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.2]) by air-zb05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:48:38 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:48:15 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06730; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:47:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <00bf01c0330c$5bc16900$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <00de01c032fa$4caa0ec0$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:49:32 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BC_01C032E2.724CB000" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: 10-Oct-00 15:50:13 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@AOL.com Funny, I think logic is not about anger. When I show you the error of your ways, which has you spinning, it is you who is angered. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his anger and frustration. Something in his life did not work out as planned (welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist at God. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining. Once >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from all >the religions and philosophies that are available. > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > >= ) > >Thinking for the both of us, > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >Mark, >You would be a great Christian. With all the energy you spend talking >about >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in >convalescent homes. God Bless you, Bill > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists. God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >>help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >>itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > >>P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >>admitting defeat so easily? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Bequette > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >>Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Morgan > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >> > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >>Life Mist da Mark. > >> > >> > >>>From: "Mark" > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>>CC: > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >>> > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >>> > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >>> > >>>= ) > >>> > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>>again. > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>>simply > >>>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >>> > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >>> > >>>Mark > >>>The Liberator > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >>> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >> > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (rly-yh04.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.36]) by air-yh02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:50:13 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:49:34 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06976; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:49:29 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <00c601c0330c$98f9b660$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:51:15 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 10-Oct-00 15:50:13 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Wow. You smart. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Praise the cerebrum that I was given. = ) Thinking for the two of us. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:40 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? PRAISE JESUS!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any. God made a nice clean defect free genetic code! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects. That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Wow. You smart.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@AOL.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet?
Praise the cerebrum that I was given.
 
= )
 
Thinking for the two of us.
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net
Cc: DWise1@AOL.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet?
PRAISE JESUS!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet?
I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any. God made a nice clean defect free genetic code! >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question.  Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects.  That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> >To: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net <billbeq@mediaone.net>; DWise1@aol.com ><DWise1@aol.com> >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (rly-yd01.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.1]) by air-yd01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:50:13 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.14) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:49:56 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA08905; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <01c001c0330b$e7114760$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <00de01c032fa$4caa0ec0$6720113f@com> <00bf01c0330c$5bc16900$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:46:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BD_01C032D1.39BFD200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: 10-Oct-00 15:50:17 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Ohh ok. Wow... But God made Adam and Eve with perfect genetic structure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy or some force external to the body. A negative genetic characteristic is one brought on by poor genetic pairing. SHeeesh.... Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. = ) The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. Sheeesh..... What are you some hick with one front tooth? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals. Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations. The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science. It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" >CC: , >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Ohh ok.  Wow...  But God made Adam and Eve with perfect genetic structure.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy or some force external to the body.  A negative genetic characteristic is one brought on by poor genetic pairing. SHeeesh.... Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. = ) The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. Sheeesh.....  What are you some hick with one front tooth? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals.  Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations.  The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science.  It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net> Cc: <billbeq@mediaone.net>; <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child.  this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <billbeq@mediaone.net>, <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:50:17 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:49:35 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA08706; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <01b601c0330b$dc42dc40$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <004e01c03305$60ceea00$052a03c7@liber8r> <015701c03305$c883ae60$6720113f@com> <008c01c0330b$48a05da0$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:45:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01B3_01C032D1.2EF166E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Date: 10-Oct-00 15:51:30 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), DWise1@AOL.com Bill, I am making headway with this atheist. We agree on something! He is not a monkey's uncle! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan ; DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:48 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide I agree. Our DNA, even though we are 99+% that of chimps, is more distant than the uncle analogy would indicate. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Bill Morgan ; DWise1@AOL.com Cc: editor@liberator.net Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Buddy we are not monkey's uncles!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Cc: editor@liberator.net Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Buddy, they are too chicken to answer your sincere inquiry. trust me! >From: "Bill Bequette" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:38:40 -0700 > >Mr Wise what is your best explanation for the origin of life? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: DWise1@aol.com > Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > > You insulted my wife's faith in Christ and gave that as your reaosn for >not > going to Denny's. > > mr Wise.....give me your best explanation for the origin of life. > > > >From: DWise1@aol.com > >To: > >CC: , , > >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > >Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:30:14 EDT > > > > > > >>I love the intellectual thrust and parry with those of different > >opinions, I have no problem with that.....it is the greatest catalyst > >toward futher research....being challenged....<< > > > >Since when, Bill M? Both Mark and I have observed you in action since > >1996. We have watched you do everything you can to avoid discussion, > >including your favorite trick of laying down rabbit trails. > > > >But then we have not observed you with somebody who doesn't know what >is > >going on. I guess that would make a difference, because you only want >to > >be "challenged" when you can tap-dance rings around the other guy. But > >bring in somebody who knows something about creation science and you >duck > >and run. > > > > >>I just have a hard time with incessant insults and whining from >people > >who will remain nameless.<< > > > >Well, Bill M, if you would stop obstructing the search for truth then > >things would run a whole lot smoother. If only you weren't so afraid >of > >the truth. > > > >For the THIRTIETH TIME, Bill M, substantiate your accusations against >me! > >Tell us what you think I had said! > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Bill,
       I am making headway with this atheist.  We agree on something!  He is not a monkey's uncle!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan ; DWise1@AOL.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide
I agree.  Our DNA, even though we are 99+% that of chimps, is more distant than the uncle analogy would indicate.
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Bill Morgan ; DWise1@AOL.com
Cc: editor@liberator.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide
Buddy we are not monkey's uncles!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com
Cc: editor@liberator.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide
Buddy, they are too chicken to answer your sincere inquiry.  trust me! >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <DWise1@aol.com> >CC: <editor@liberator.net> >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:38:40 -0700 > >Mr Wise what is your best explanation for the origin of life? >   ----- Original Message ----- >   From: Bill Morgan >   To: DWise1@aol.com >   Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >   Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:22 PM >   Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > >   You insulted my wife's faith in Christ and gave that as your reaosn for >not >   going to Denny's. > >   mr Wise.....give me your best explanation for the origin of life. > > >   >From: DWise1@aol.com >   >To: <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >   >CC: <billbeq@mediaone.net>, <editor@liberator.net>, <DWise1@aol.com> >   >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >   >Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:30:14 EDT >   > >   > >   > >>I love the intellectual thrust and parry with those of different >   >opinions, I have no problem with that.....it is the greatest catalyst >   >toward futher research....being challenged....<< >   > >   >Since when, Bill M?  Both Mark and I have observed you in action since >   >1996.  We have watched you do everything you can to avoid discussion, >   >including your favorite trick of laying down rabbit trails. >   > >   >But then we have not observed you with somebody who doesn't know what >is >   >going on.  I guess that would make a difference, because you only want >to >   >be "challenged" when you can tap-dance rings around the other guy.  But >   >bring in somebody who knows something about creation science and you >duck >   >and run. >   > >   > >>I just have a hard time with incessant insults and whining from >people >   >who will remain nameless.<< >   > >   >Well, Bill M, if you would stop obstructing the search for truth then >   >things would run a whole lot smoother.  If only you weren't so afraid >of >   >the truth. >   > >   >For the THIRTIETH TIME, Bill M, substantiate your accusations against >me! >   >Tell us what you think I had said! >   > > >   >_________________________________________________________________________ >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >   http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (rly-yg02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.2]) by air-yg05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:51:30 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:51:03 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA09641; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <01ca01c0330c$100597c0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" , References: <00bd01c032f9$f3f159a0$6720113f@com> <00b601c0330c$44e730c0$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:47:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01C7_01C032D1.62AAFAA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Bill 10; Mark 0 Date: 10-Oct-00 15:51:43 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: billbeq@mediaone.net, editor@liberator.net CC: DWise1@aol.com >From: "Bill Bequette" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Cain's wife >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:38:18 -0700 > >10 points go to Bill. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: editor@liberator.net > Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:24 PM > Subject: Cain's wife > > > The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of >mutations. > You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher > risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the >physical > inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. > > Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 >years > ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you >agree > with that? > > Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest >wrong? > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" > >CC: , > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. > >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (rly-yg02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.2]) by air-yg02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:51:43 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f82.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.82]) by rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:51:24 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:51:23 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:51:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: billbeq@mediaone.net, editor@liberator.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: Bill 10; Mark 0 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:51:23 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 22:51:23.0653 (UTC) FILETIME=[9D358B50:01C0330C] ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 10-Oct-00 15:52:16 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Bill, according to your theory of the Christian God creating the Universe, don't thank me for my gorgeous brain. Thank the Christian God. It's a 'sin' not to use it if God created it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:46 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Wow. You smart. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Praise the cerebrum that I was given. = ) Thinking for the two of us. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:40 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? PRAISE JESUS!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any. God made a nice clean defect free genetic code! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects. That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:52:16 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:51:52 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA07318; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:51:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <00d601c0330c$ebc5b240$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <00de01c032fa$4caa0ec0$6720113f@com> <00bf01c0330c$5bc16900$052a03c7@liber8r> <01c001c0330b$e7114760$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:53:34 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: 10-Oct-00 15:53:02 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, since you claim to follow science, what evidence do you have that your statement is true? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Ohh ok. Wow... But God made Adam and Eve with perfect genetic structure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy or some force external to the body. A negative genetic characteristic is one brought on by poor genetic pairing. SHeeesh.... Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. = ) The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. Sheeesh..... What are you some hick with one front tooth? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals. Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations. The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science. It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" >CC: , >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:53:02 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:52:41 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA07376; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:52:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <00dc01c0330d$094ce680$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <004e01c03305$60ceea00$052a03c7@liber8r> <015701c03305$c883ae60$6720113f@com> <008c01c0330b$48a05da0$052a03c7@liber8r> <01b601c0330b$dc42dc40$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:54:23 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: 10-Oct-00 15:53:46 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Thanks! = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:43 PM Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Smarty pants! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:34 PM Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Bill, if you knew anything about science -- which you clearly do not -- you would know that science does not prove something. Science only suggests something to be true from current information thru theory. If new information should be found to discredit known information, then said theory would not be acceptable. This is the strength behind science. Unlike religious axioms, which are inflexible or take many generations to change, science changes as better information is received. = ) Bill, you are a comedy routine. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:06 PM Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Oh no I am not skeptical of science. Science proves God exists. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:59 PM Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Bill Bequette, you wrote: "I have to agree with Bill. My hat is off to you guys! Watching embittered skeptics get nasty with me and my fellow brethren is great. It confirms everything the Bible says about atheists. Right on guys! Thanks for confirming my faith :) John 3:16" Yet you are skeptical of science... Did you ever think that your own words describe you quite well? BTW, who ssaid I was an atheist? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: We know for whom the Bell tolls Lets look at theings. The Book of Galatians (5:22)says the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. The deeds of the flesh include emnitiy, strife, angry, dissention, factions and envying. I have been around a long time and have met a lot of people. There are always exceptions, but over all there is no doubt this verse is true. Show me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person. Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness. Greg Laurie said once: even if Christianity were not true (and all four of us know it is true), it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial. Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote about 2000 years ago! Amen! Agape, Bill >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Chicken little was right! >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:38:28 -0500 > >Bill, the Bible is planted in truth? > >Ha.. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:31 PM >Subject: Chicken little was right! > > >Unhappiness.....that is the fruit that falls from a tree planted in lies >and >blooming toward hopelessness. > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:12:18 -0700 > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > An impartial judge has ruled: > > Bill 10 > > Liberal 0 > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > > >thought > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > > >ship > > > >in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > > >if > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and > >spend so > > > >much > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I >told > >you > > > >that > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find >it > > >quite > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so > >long. > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > > >easier > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get >a > >few > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > >Mark > > > >The Liberator > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile >at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Mark ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls
Smarty pants!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls
Bill, if you knew anything about science -- which you clearly do not -- you would know that science does not prove something.  Science only suggests something to be true from current information thru theory.  If new information should be found to discredit known information, then said theory would not be acceptable.  This is the strength behind science.  Unlike religious axioms, which are inflexible or take many generations to change, science changes as better information is received. = ) Bill, you are a comedy routine. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:06 PM Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Oh no I am not skeptical of science.  Science proves God exists. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:59 PM Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Bill Bequette, you wrote: "I have to agree with Bill.  My hat is off to you guys!  Watching embittered skeptics get nasty with me and my fellow brethren is great.  It confirms everything the Bible says about atheists.  Right on guys!  Thanks for confirming my faith :)  John 3:16" Yet you are skeptical of science...  Did you ever think that your own words describe you quite well? BTW, who ssaid I was an atheist? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: We know for whom the Bell tolls Lets look at theings. The Book of Galatians (5:22)says the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. The deeds of the flesh include emnitiy, strife, angry, dissention, factions and envying. I have been around a long time and have met a lot of people.  There are always exceptions, but over all there is no doubt this verse is true.  Show me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person. Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness. Greg Laurie said once:  even if Christianity were not true (and all four of us know it is true), it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial. Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote about 2000 years ago!  Amen! Agape, Bill >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Chicken little was right! >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:38:28 -0500 > >Bill, the Bible is planted in truth? > >Ha.. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >To: <billbeq@mediaone.net>; <editor@liberator.net> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:31 PM >Subject: Chicken little was right! > > >Unhappiness.....that is the fruit that falls from a tree planted in lies >and >blooming toward hopelessness. > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:12:18 -0700 > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   From: Bill Morgan > >   To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > >   An impartial judge has ruled: > >   Bill 10 > >   Liberal 0 > > > > > >   >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > >   >ship in the first place? > >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > >   > > >   >10 points to Bill > >   >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   >   From: Bill Morgan > >   >   To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >   >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   >   Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > >   >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > >   >a ship in the first place? > >   > > >   > > >   >   Mark, I apologized.  Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >   >thought > >   >   you believed it was true just unappealling. > >   > > >   > > >   >   >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >   >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, ><billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >   >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a > >   >ship > >   >   >in the first place? > >   >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > >   >   > > >   >   >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >   >   > > >   >   >"Mark:  why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > >   >if > >   >   >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and > >spend so > >   >   >much > >   >   >time angry about it?" > >   >   > > >   >   >Bill, I didn't ignore it.  You must have missed the letter.  I >told > >you > >   >   >that > >   >   >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction.  In fact, I find >it > >   >quite > >   >   >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so > >long. > >   >   > > >   >   >= ) > >   >   > > >   >   >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories.  I guess it's > >   >easier > >   >   >than believing reality.  That's their call.  It's my right to get >a > >few > >   >   >chuckles out of it. > >   >   > > >   >   >Mark > >   >   >The Liberator > >   >   >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >   >   >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >   >   > > >   > > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >   >http://www.hotmail.com. > >   > > >   >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile >at > >   >   http://profiles.msn.com. > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >   http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (rly-yg03.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.3]) by air-yg04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:53:46 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:53:09 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA07410; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:53:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <00e701c0330d$189fef60$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <006d01c032f8$8712ac40$6720113f@com> <005401c03305$65c905e0$052a03c7@liber8r> <017a01c03306$4d7f90c0$6720113f@com> <007a01c0330a$4859ad20$052a03c7@liber8r> <01ad01c0330b$7e0b4ae0$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:54:49 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E4_01C032E3.2F220EA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: It was an easy question Mark; Dont play word games Date: 10-Oct-00 15:54:46 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, DWise1@aol.com, billbeq@mediaone.net >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , , > >Subject: Re: Was Undeliverable >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:24:03 -0500 > >Bill: > >Is evil an entity that makes one do 'bad' things? If yes, what makes you >think evil exists? If no, what is your definition of evil and what makes >someone do 'bad' things? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:55 PM >Subject: Re: Was Undeliverable > > >Dave: was Joseph Stalin evil: >a) yes >b) no > > > > > >From: DWise1@aol.com > >To: > >CC: , , > >Subject: Re: Was Undeliverable > >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:43:33 EDT > > > > >>How can you use the word "evil" if you don't believe in God? How can > >"evil" exist in your world of no higher meaning or morality, just the >cold > >vacuum of space?<< > > > >Because evil does exist, as does good, as part of the human condition. >As > >does morality. You don't need to rely on the supernatural to explain >their > >existence. > > > >I do realize that this is contrary to your theology. I realize that your > >theology teaches that morality cannot exist without your god. Yet >morality > >does exist in all cultures regardless of belief in your god or lack > >thereof. It serves a very real and vital purpose, not just some abstract > >one. > > > >Have you thought your theology through on the matter of morality? What >is > >that theology's effect on someone who stops believing in your god? > > > >The fundamentalist teaching that I have heard on this is that without >your > >god there is no reason for anyone to act morally. You yourself echoed >this > >with your question above. I have heard and read the testimonies of >several > >former Christians who became atheists, most often because they had > >discovered that their religion and/or religious leaders had been lying to > >them or had betrayed them in some other way (whether the lie or betrayal > >was real is immaterial; all that matters it that the individual believed > >that it had happened). They had been raised on the belief that without > >God, there is no reason to behave morally. > > > >What would the consequences be? > > > >Now also consider that several YEC Christians have suffered severe crises > >of faith when they discovered that the creation science claims they had > >been basing their faith on are false. Some became atheists, some >remained > >Christians, but none of them remained YECs. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.5]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:54:46 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f196.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.196]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:54:22 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:54:19 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:54:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, DWise1@aol.com, billbeq@mediaone.net Subject: It was an easy question Mark; Dont play word games Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:54:19 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 22:54:19.0776 (UTC) FILETIME=[062FC800:01C0330D] ################################################ Subj: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: 10-Oct-00 15:54:48 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com I think Mark needs God but like the child trying to anger God i.e. his parent so that the parent "God" will realize he is reaching out for help! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:51 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Funny, I think logic is not about anger. When I show you the error of your ways, which has you spinning, it is you who is angered. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his anger and frustration. Something in his life did not work out as planned (welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist at God. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining. Once >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from all >the religions and philosophies that are available. > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > >= ) > >Thinking for the both of us, > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >Mark, >You would be a great Christian. With all the energy you spend talking >about >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in >convalescent homes. God Bless you, Bill > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists. God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >>help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >>itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > >>P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >>admitting defeat so easily? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Bequette > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >>Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Morgan > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >> > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >>Life Mist da Mark. > >> > >> > >>>From: "Mark" > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>>CC: > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >>> > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >>> > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >>> > >>>= ) > >>> > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>>again. > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>>simply > >>>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >>> > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >>> > >>>Mark > >>>The Liberator > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >>> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >> > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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I think Mark needs God but like the child trying to anger God i.e. his parent so that the parent "God" will realize he is reaching out for help!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@AOL.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka
Funny, I think logic is not about anger.  When I show you the error of your ways, which has you spinning, it is you who is angered. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@AOL.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his anger and frustration.  Something in his life did not work out as planned (welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist at God. >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining.  Once >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from all >the religions and philosophies that are available. > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > >= ) > >Thinking for the both of us, > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >Mark, >You would be a great Christian.  With all the energy you spend talking >about >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in >convalescent homes.  God Bless you, Bill > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> >To: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net>; Bill Morgan ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: DWise1@aol.com <DWise1@aol.com> >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it.  It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too.  BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying.  You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better.  Some people can't >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37].  The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok.  I will stick with my belief system.  I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be.  I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists.  God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> > >To: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net>; Bill Morgan > ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com <DWise1@aol.com> > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >>help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >>itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > >>P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are > >you > >>admitting defeat so easily? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Bequette > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the > >>Lord is on your side.  So go easy. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Morgan > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >> > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >>Life Mist da Mark. > >> > >> > >>>From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >>>CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >>> > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >>> > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>>consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >>> > >>>= ) > >>> > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > >>>again. > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>>simply > >>>too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > >>> > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >>> > >>>Mark > >>>The Liberator > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >>> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >> > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:54:48 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:54:04 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA11503; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <01e501c0330c$7a954180$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <00c601c0330c$98f9b660$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:50:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01E2_01C032D1.CD223A60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: 10-Oct-00 15:55:15 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com The Bible. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Bill, since you claim to follow science, what evidence do you have that your statement is true? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Ohh ok. Wow... But God made Adam and Eve with perfect genetic structure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy or some force external to the body. A negative genetic characteristic is one brought on by poor genetic pairing. SHeeesh.... Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. = ) The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. Sheeesh..... What are you some hick with one front tooth? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals. Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations. The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science. It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" >CC: , >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
The Bible.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
Bill, since you claim to follow science, what evidence do you have that your statement is true? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Ohh ok.  Wow...  But God made Adam and Eve with perfect genetic structure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy or some force external to the body.  A negative genetic characteristic is one brought on by poor genetic pairing. SHeeesh.... Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. = ) The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. Sheeesh.....  What are you some hick with one front tooth? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals.  Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations.  The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science.  It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net> Cc: <billbeq@mediaone.net>; <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child.  this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <billbeq@mediaone.net>, <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb04.mx.aol.com (rly-zb04.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.4]) by air-zb05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:55:15 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zb04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:54:31 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA11818; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <01ee01c0330c$8bdfd4a0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <004e01c03305$60ceea00$052a03c7@liber8r> <015701c03305$c883ae60$6720113f@com> <008c01c0330b$48a05da0$052a03c7@liber8r> <01b601c0330b$dc42dc40$6720113f@com> <00dc01c0330d$094ce680$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:50:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01EB_01C032D1.DE8CD8A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 15:55:35 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com According to your theory of God creating the Universe, I'd rather use his greater gift: the brain. It entitles me to think, which is far more helpful then praying ever was. = ) If I was in a hospital, I'd rather have doctors working on me than people praying for me. Get it? = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:42 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Try praying!!! God loves you! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Bill, to follow your belief that God created the Universe and consequently my brain came to be, it would be immoral for me not to use it. I would be breaking God's law by not using it! = ) You should try it sometime and please your God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Your lucky God gave you the chance to feel sorry. Someday God will be judging you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance to a Christian God than kids with Cancer. That's sad. I feel sorry for you and the God you worship. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side. So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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According to your theory of God creating the Universe, I'd rather use his greater gift: the brain.  It entitles me to think, which is far more helpful then praying ever was.
 
= )
 
If I was in a hospital, I'd rather have doctors working on me than people praying for me.
 
Get it?
 
= )
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Mark ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Jock itch
Try praying!!! God loves you!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Jock itch
Bill, to follow your belief that God created the Universe and consequently my brain came to be, it would be immoral for me not to use it.  I would be breaking God's law by not using it! = ) You should try it sometime and please your God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Your lucky God gave you the chance to feel sorry.  Someday God will be judging you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance to a Christian God than kids with Cancer. That's sad.  I feel sorry for you and the God you worship. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more important than kids with cancer.  It must be sad for you to worship a petty God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side.  So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-ye02.mx.aol.com (rly-ye02.mail.aol.com [172.18.151.199]) by air-ye03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:55:35 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-ye02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:54:59 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA07685; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:54:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <00f001c0330d$57efd220$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <000e01c03300$cab8d020$052a03c7@liber8r> <014a01c03303$aad3ce60$6720113f@com> <005b01c03305$95bfc540$052a03c7@liber8r> <016d01c03306$29949e80$6720113f@com> <008001c0330a$8d5dd400$052a03c7@liber8r> <01a401c0330b$53aedf00$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:56:35 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00ED_01C032E3.6E62AF20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: 10-Oct-00 15:56:35 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, that Bible quote sure did clear up things. That book is soooo helpful. = ) Do you think Darwin used it for his Origin of the Species? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:41 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Thanks for confirming what the Bible states and that is babies don't come from mud. Or rather "We are not one with the mud". Isn't that a REM song? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:38 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, if you show me a scientific theory that states babies came from mud, I'll show you an invalid theory. Instead, your oversimplification of a known scientific theory is in error -- not the theory itself. If you learn more about science, you will appreciate it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:04 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Babies. Children are proof of all the Bible's glorious wonders. Babies did not evolve from mud. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Totally False. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > > >in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > > >much > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told >you > > >that > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > >quite > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > >easier > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a >few > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Bill, that Bible quote sure did clear up things.  That book is soooo helpful.
 
= )
 
Do you think Darwin used it for his Origin of the Species?
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Mark ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place?
Thanks for confirming what the
Bible states and that is babies don't come from mud.  Or rather "We are not one with the mud".  Isn't that a REM song?
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place?
Bill, if you show me a scientific theory that states babies came from mud, I'll show you an invalid theory.  Instead, your oversimplification of a known scientific theory is in error -- not the theory itself. If you learn more about science, you will appreciate it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:04 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Babies.  Children are proof of all the Bible's glorious wonders.  Babies did not evolve from mud. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Totally False. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths.  You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   From: Bill Morgan > >   To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > >   Mark, I apologized.  Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > >   you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > >   >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > >   >in the first place? > >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > >   > > >   >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >   > > >   >"Mark:  why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > >   >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > >   >much > >   >time angry about it?" > >   > > >   >Bill, I didn't ignore it.  You must have missed the letter.  I told >you > >   >that > >   >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction.  In fact, I find it > >quite > >   >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > >   > > >   >= ) > >   > > >   >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories.  I guess it's > >easier > >   >than believing reality.  That's their call.  It's my right to get a >few > >   >chuckles out of it. > >   > > >   >Mark > >   >The Liberator > >   >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >   >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >   http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-ye03.mx.aol.com (rly-ye03.mail.aol.com [172.18.151.200]) by air-ye02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:56:34 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-ye03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:56:10 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA07852; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:55:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <00f901c0330d$81845a20$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <001301c03301$055ae240$052a03c7@liber8r> <014101c03303$9698f920$6720113f@com> <006401c03305$d691b420$052a03c7@liber8r> <016301c03306$085b5ec0$6720113f@com> <008601c0330a$d4aa6440$052a03c7@liber8r> <019b01c0330b$4137b2c0$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:57:45 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F6_01C032E3.98067960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 15:56:50 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com I NEVER said that! I said the buffalo Bills were more important than kids with cancer. not all football games are. Kids with cancer are more than Chrger games. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Jock itch >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:26:44 -0500 > >I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more >important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty >God. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM >Subject: Jock itch > > >God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves >them he keeps them humble. > >I know God is not a raider fan. > >If you wash more your jock itch will go away. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > > >again. > > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > > >simply > > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (rly-yg03.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.3]) by air-yg03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:56:50 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f131.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.131]) by rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:56:19 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:56:18 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:56:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:56:18 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 22:56:18.0736 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D17A300:01C0330D] ################################################ Subj: Then I am a goof ball for believing it! Date: 10-Oct-00 15:58:25 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:28:23 -0500 > >The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some >which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You give >the manmade Bible too much credit. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >The answer is in the Bible Mark! > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > > > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > > > >= ) > > > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > > > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > > > > > >An impartial judge has ruled: > >Bill 10 > >Liberal 0 > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > > >thought > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a > > >ship > > > >in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > > >if > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and >spend > >so > > > >much > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told > >you > > > >that > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > > >quite > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so >long. > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > > >easier > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a > >few > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > >Mark > > > >The Liberator > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.4]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:58:25 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f16.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.16]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:57:20 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:57:19 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:57:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: Then I am a goof ball for believing it! Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:57:19 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2000 22:57:19.0845 (UTC) FILETIME=[71842150:01C0330D] ################################################ Subj: Re: I knew Peter Sellers..You are no Peter Sellers Date: 10-Oct-00 15:59:22 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), DWise1@aol.com, billbeq@mediaone.net If you assert that anyone who thinks is an atheist, then there are a whole lot of atheists out there. It's a shame you disqualify yourself from the thinkers list. Who said I was an atheist? Just because I don't regurgitate that mindless Christian chant doesn't make me an atheist. Are Christians as monolithic as you imagine? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; ; Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:43 PM Subject: I knew Peter Sellers..You are no Peter Sellers If you guys had mentioned giving me a Moe Howard hair cut I would have laughed. Is being humorless a prerequisite to being atheist? >From: "Mark" >To: , >CC: , >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:35:10 -0500 > >Did you really expect anything else from these 'religious' guys? > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Cc: ; ; >Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:42 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > >>I envision giving Mark a Moe-Howard haircut and David a Larry-Howard >haircut. Is that acceptable?<< > >So, behind your persistent overtures of friendship lies your true ulterior >motives to pull dirty tricks to pull on us and to humiliate us. You strive >to gain our trust, just so you can betray that trust. > >Thank you for your Christian witness. And you wonder why the popularity of >Christians is so low (or at least the conservative Christian propaganda >machinery keeps complaining that it is). That Trojan-Horse proverb should >be changed to: "Beware of Christians professing friendship." I am also >reminded of what the Bible says about wolves in sheep's clothing. Which >then reminds me of a speaker drawing several parallels between the >Pharisees, as depicted in the New Testament, and the Fundamentalists of >today. > > >BTW, Moe and Joe were Howards and brothers. Larry was a Fine. [heard over >the PA system in one of their hospital routines: "Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. >Howard"] You should watch Biography more often. > >Trivia Question: Why did Larry Fine's parents have him learn the violin? > >True War Story: When I was sent to NCO Leadership School at Keesler AFB, >my >roommate met up again with a buddy from when they were stationed in >Germany. >They were both Stooges fans and, because they couldn't watch any Stooges >over there, they used to play through the routines themselves. As I >watched >them reminisce and run through some routines, this big sergeant (same rank >as us) came over and just quietly watched for a while. Then he opened his >wallet and pulled out his Official Three Stooges Fan Club card. For the >next two weeks, not only did I have all three of them re-enacting Stooges >routines all the time, but the local TV station played a 15-minute Stooges >program every morning before we went to class. Mandatory viewing. [One >short I hadn't seen before: The three try to sneak into the race track for >free by posing as members of the press, to which end they steal knobs from >the restroom to use as press buttons -- "Press" "Press" "Pull -- nyuk, >nyuk, >nyuk"] > > >PS >Your diabolical plot would not have worked. My hair is too short. > >PPS >We also have hair clippers. My wife used it to keep my hair trimmed when I >was on active duty ("when I was in the war" in Air-Force-speak). Before >that, I used to do my own hair with scissors and a razor comb. Trimming my >beard with scissors was no problem, except for when I nearly snipped my >ear-lobe off. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Date: 10-Oct-00 16:01:30 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Bill, reading the Bible is reading the word of man. We are all inspired to write and the writers of the Bible were no more inspired by God than a dog who licks himself. I bet the dog gets far more pleasure from the ritual. That's for sure. It's also far more beneficial since there is a biological reason to clear one's glands. This blows a hole in the whole masterbation debate that is aspoused from Christians. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:37 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Read the word of GOD in the Bible then you will understand! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill Morgan , you wrote: "I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any." What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an inherited genetic trait. "God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create such a thing? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects. That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-ye01.mx.aol.com (rly-ye01.mail.aol.com [172.18.151.198]) by air-ye01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:01:30 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-ye01.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:01:16 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA08484; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:01:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <010a01c0330e$3ca55200$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <006f01c03309$b603d2c0$052a03c7@liber8r> <018901c0330a$beb81b00$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:02:59 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 10-Oct-00 16:03:26 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com You either believe or you don't. The Bible is by God not byman. Sinple. If you feel otherwise then so be it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill, reading the Bible is reading the word of man. We are all inspired to write and the writers of the Bible were no more inspired by God than a dog who licks himself. I bet the dog gets far more pleasure from the ritual. That's for sure. It's also far more beneficial since there is a biological reason to clear one's glands. This blows a hole in the whole masterbation debate that is aspoused from Christians. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:37 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Read the word of GOD in the Bible then you will understand! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill Morgan , you wrote: "I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any." What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an inherited genetic trait. "God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create such a thing? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects. That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
You either believe or you don't.  The Bible is by God not byman.  Sinple.  If you feel otherwise then so be it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@AOL.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:02 PM
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Bill, reading the Bible is reading the word of man.  We are all inspired to write and the writers of the Bible were no more inspired by God than a dog who licks himself. I bet the dog gets far more pleasure from the ritual.  That's for sure. It's also far more beneficial since there is a biological reason to clear one's glands.  This blows a hole in the whole masterbation debate that is aspoused from Christians. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:37 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Read the word of GOD in the Bible then you will understand! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: "I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any." What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an inherited genetic trait. "God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create such a thing? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question.  Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects.  That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> >To: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net <billbeq@mediaone.net>; DWise1@aol.com ><DWise1@aol.com> >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (rly-yd01.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.1]) by air-yd03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:03:25 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.14) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:02:51 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA17514; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <01f901c0330d$b5d1f080$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <006f01c03309$b603d2c0$052a03c7@liber8r> <018901c0330a$beb81b00$6720113f@com> <010a01c0330e$3ca55200$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:59:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01F6_01C032D3.08881C40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: 10-Oct-00 16:04:15 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com I know Clinton hasn't read the Bible. Since I don't worship Darwin I wouldn't know. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:57 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, that Bible quote sure did clear up things. That book is soooo helpful. = ) Do you think Darwin used it for his Origin of the Species? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:41 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Thanks for confirming what the Bible states and that is babies don't come from mud. Or rather "We are not one with the mud". Isn't that a REM song? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:38 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, if you show me a scientific theory that states babies came from mud, I'll show you an invalid theory. Instead, your oversimplification of a known scientific theory is in error -- not the theory itself. If you learn more about science, you will appreciate it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:04 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Babies. Children are proof of all the Bible's glorious wonders. Babies did not evolve from mud. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Totally False. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > > >in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > > >much > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told >you > > >that > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > >quite > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > >easier > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a >few > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
I know Clinton hasn't read the Bible.  Since I don't worship Darwin I wouldn't know.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place?
Bill, that Bible quote sure did clear up things.  That book is soooo helpful.
 
= )
 
Do you think Darwin used it for his Origin of the Species?
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Mark ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place?
Thanks for confirming what the
Bible states and that is babies don't come from mud.  Or rather "We are not one with the mud".  Isn't that a REM song?
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place?
Bill, if you show me a scientific theory that states babies came from mud, I'll show you an invalid theory.  Instead, your oversimplification of a known scientific theory is in error -- not the theory itself. If you learn more about science, you will appreciate it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:04 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Babies.  Children are proof of all the Bible's glorious wonders.  Babies did not evolve from mud. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Totally False. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths.  You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   From: Bill Morgan > >   To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > >   Mark, I apologized.  Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > >   you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > >   >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > >   >in the first place? > >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > >   > > >   >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >   > > >   >"Mark:  why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > >   >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > >   >much > >   >time angry about it?" > >   > > >   >Bill, I didn't ignore it.  You must have missed the letter.  I told >you > >   >that > >   >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction.  In fact, I find it > >quite > >   >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > >   > > >   >= ) > >   > > >   >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories.  I guess it's > >easier > >   >than believing reality.  That's their call.  It's my right to get a >few > >   >chuckles out of it. > >   > > >   >Mark > >   >The Liberator > >   >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >   >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >   http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-ye05.mx.aol.com (rly-ye05.mail.aol.com [172.18.151.202]) by air-ye02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:04:15 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-ye05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:03:49 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA18018; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <020301c0330d$d664de20$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <001301c03301$055ae240$052a03c7@liber8r> <014101c03303$9698f920$6720113f@com> <006401c03305$d691b420$052a03c7@liber8r> <016301c03306$085b5ec0$6720113f@com> <008601c0330a$d4aa6440$052a03c7@liber8r> <019b01c0330b$4137b2c0$6720113f@com> <00f901c0330d$81845a20$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:00:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0200_01C032D3.291368C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 16:05:04 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), editor@liberator.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Or Raiders! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I NEVER said that! I said the buffalo Bills were more important than kids with cancer. not all football games are. Kids with cancer are more than Chrger games. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Jock itch >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:26:44 -0500 > >I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more >important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty >God. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM >Subject: Jock itch > > >God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves >them he keeps them humble. > >I know God is not a raider fan. > >If you wash more your jock itch will go away. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > > >again. > > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > > >simply > > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Or Raiders!
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Jock itch
I NEVER said that! I said the buffalo Bills were more important than kids with cancer.  not all football games are.  Kids with cancer are more than Chrger games. >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Jock itch >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:26:44 -0500 > >I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more >important than kids with cancer.  It must be sad for you to worship a petty >God. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM >Subject: Jock itch > > >God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves >them he keeps them humble. > >I know God is not a raider fan. > >If you wash more your jock itch will go away. > > > >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" > ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are > >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side.  So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > > >consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > > >again. > > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > > >simply > > >too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > > > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (rly-yg02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.2]) by air-yg01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:05:04 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:04:34 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA18571; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <021001c0330d$f19a8140$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:00:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_020D_01C032D3.44478540" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 16:05:22 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com So you admit that God exists? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch According to your theory of God creating the Universe, I'd rather use his greater gift: the brain. It entitles me to think, which is far more helpful then praying ever was. = ) If I was in a hospital, I'd rather have doctors working on me than people praying for me. Get it? = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:42 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Try praying!!! God loves you! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Bill, to follow your belief that God created the Universe and consequently my brain came to be, it would be immoral for me not to use it. I would be breaking God's law by not using it! = ) You should try it sometime and please your God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Your lucky God gave you the chance to feel sorry. Someday God will be judging you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance to a Christian God than kids with Cancer. That's sad. I feel sorry for you and the God you worship. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side. So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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So you admit that God exists?
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Jock itch
According to your theory of God creating the Universe, I'd rather use his greater gift: the brain.  It entitles me to think, which is far more helpful then praying ever was.
 
= )
 
If I was in a hospital, I'd rather have doctors working on me than people praying for me.
 
Get it?
 
= )
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Mark ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Jock itch
Try praying!!! God loves you!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Jock itch
Bill, to follow your belief that God created the Universe and consequently my brain came to be, it would be immoral for me not to use it.  I would be breaking God's law by not using it! = ) You should try it sometime and please your God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Your lucky God gave you the chance to feel sorry.  Someday God will be judging you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance to a Christian God than kids with Cancer. That's sad.  I feel sorry for you and the God you worship. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more important than kids with cancer.  It must be sad for you to worship a petty God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side.  So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-ye05.mx.aol.com (rly-ye05.mail.aol.com [172.18.151.202]) by air-ye03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:05:22 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-ye05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:04:59 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA18902; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <021a01c0330e$01cdd800$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <000e01c03300$cab8d020$052a03c7@liber8r> <014a01c03303$aad3ce60$6720113f@com> <005b01c03305$95bfc540$052a03c7@liber8r> <016d01c03306$29949e80$6720113f@com> <008001c0330a$8d5dd400$052a03c7@liber8r> <01a401c0330b$53aedf00$6720113f@com> <00f001c0330d$57efd220$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:01:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0217_01C032D3.547C62A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: 10-Oct-00 16:05:30 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, if you knew anything about logic, you would also know that you offer a cyclical argument. 'How do you know that the Bible information is true?' I ask. You offer, "Because it says so in the Bible." QED. This is just toooo easy. However, I wish this were somehow different than most Christians viewpoints. Many Christians who also have been conditioned to utter these chants think the same as you. It's sad that you do not use the greatest gift you have been given: a brain. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The Bible. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Bill, since you claim to follow science, what evidence do you have that your statement is true? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Ohh ok. Wow... But God made Adam and Eve with perfect genetic structure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy or some force external to the body. A negative genetic characteristic is one brought on by poor genetic pairing. SHeeesh.... Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. = ) The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. Sheeesh..... What are you some hick with one front tooth? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals. Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations. The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science. It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" >CC: , >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Bill, if you knew anything about logic, you would also know that you offer a cyclical argument.  'How do you know that the Bible information is true?' I ask.  You offer, "Because it says so in the Bible."
 
QED.
 
This is just toooo easy.  However, I wish this were somehow different than most Christians viewpoints.  Many Christians who also have been conditioned to utter these chants think the same as you.  It's sad that you do not use the greatest gift you have been given: a brain.
 
= )
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Mark ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
The Bible.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
Bill, since you claim to follow science, what evidence do you have that your statement is true? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Ohh ok.  Wow...  But God made Adam and Eve with perfect genetic structure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy or some force external to the body.  A negative genetic characteristic is one brought on by poor genetic pairing. SHeeesh.... Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. = ) The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. Sheeesh.....  What are you some hick with one front tooth? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals.  Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations.  The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science.  It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net> Cc: <billbeq@mediaone.net>; <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child.  this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <billbeq@mediaone.net>, <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh01.mx.aol.com (rly-yh01.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.33]) by air-yh04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:05:30 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yh01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:05:12 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA08807; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:05:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <011501c0330e$c7fbcaa0$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <004e01c03305$60ceea00$052a03c7@liber8r> <015701c03305$c883ae60$6720113f@com> <008c01c0330b$48a05da0$052a03c7@liber8r> <01b601c0330b$dc42dc40$6720113f@com> <00dc01c0330d$094ce680$052a03c7@liber8r> <01ee01c0330c$8bdfd4a0$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:06:53 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0112_01C032E4.DE6D2100" X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Then I am a goof ball for believing it! Date: 10-Oct-00 16:06:24 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), editor@liberator.net CC: DWise1@aol.com The great thing about the Bible is it is a finite amount of writing. Where as you will keep typing forvever...... ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:57 PM Subject: Then I am a goof ball for believing it! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:28:23 -0500 > >The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some >which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You give >the manmade Bible too much credit. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >The answer is in the Bible Mark! > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > > > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > > > >= ) > > > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > > > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > > > > > >An impartial judge has ruled: > >Bill 10 > >Liberal 0 > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > > >thought > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a > > >ship > > > >in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > > >if > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and >spend > >so > > > >much > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told > >you > > > >that > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > > >quite > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so >long. > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > > >easier > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a > >few > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > >Mark > > > >The Liberator > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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The great thing about the Bible is it is a finite amount of writing.  Where as you will keep typing forvever......
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:57 PM
Subject: Then I am a goof ball for believing it!
>From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:28:23 -0500 > >The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some >which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths.  You give >the manmade Bible too much credit. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >The answer is in the Bible Mark! > > > >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" > ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > > > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > > > >= ) > > > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > > > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > > > > > >An impartial judge has ruled: > >Bill 10 > >Liberal 0 > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > >   ----- Original Message ----- > > >   From: Bill Morgan > > >   To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > >   Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > >   Mark, I apologized.  Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > > >thought > > >   you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > >   >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > > >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > > >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > > >   >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a > > >ship > > >   >in the first place? > > >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > >   > > > >   >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > > >   > > > >   >"Mark:  why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > > >if > > >   >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and >spend > >so > > >   >much > > >   >time angry about it?" > > >   > > > >   >Bill, I didn't ignore it.  You must have missed the letter.  I told > >you > > >   >that > > >   >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction.  In fact, I find it > > >quite > > >   >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so >long. > > >   > > > >   >= ) > > >   > > > >   >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories.  I guess it's > > >easier > > >   >than believing reality.  That's their call.  It's my right to get a > >few > > >   >chuckles out of it. > > >   > > > >   >Mark > > >   >The Liberator > > >   >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >   >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > >   > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > >   http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) by air-yc05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:06:24 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:05:55 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA19420; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <022501c0330e$235c8ac0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Then I am a goof ball for believing it! Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:02:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0222_01C032D3.760B1560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: 10-Oct-00 16:07:17 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Wow your a smart one. I bets yous wents 2 schul? I bet you have a Bachelor's in Liberal Arts? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Bill, if you knew anything about logic, you would also know that you offer a cyclical argument. 'How do you know that the Bible information is true?' I ask. You offer, "Because it says so in the Bible." QED. This is just toooo easy. However, I wish this were somehow different than most Christians viewpoints. Many Christians who also have been conditioned to utter these chants think the same as you. It's sad that you do not use the greatest gift you have been given: a brain. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The Bible. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Bill, since you claim to follow science, what evidence do you have that your statement is true? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Ohh ok. Wow... But God made Adam and Eve with perfect genetic structure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy or some force external to the body. A negative genetic characteristic is one brought on by poor genetic pairing. SHeeesh.... Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. = ) The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. Sheeesh..... What are you some hick with one front tooth? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals. Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations. The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science. It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" >CC: , >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Wow your a smart one.  I bets yous wents 2 schul?  I bet you have a Bachelor's in Liberal Arts?
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
Bill, if you knew anything about logic, you would also know that you offer a cyclical argument.  'How do you know that the Bible information is true?' I ask.  You offer, "Because it says so in the Bible."
 
QED.
 
This is just toooo easy.  However, I wish this were somehow different than most Christians viewpoints.  Many Christians who also have been conditioned to utter these chants think the same as you.  It's sad that you do not use the greatest gift you have been given: a brain.
 
= )
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Mark ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
The Bible.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
Bill, since you claim to follow science, what evidence do you have that your statement is true? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Ohh ok.  Wow...  But God made Adam and Eve with perfect genetic structure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy or some force external to the body.  A negative genetic characteristic is one brought on by poor genetic pairing. SHeeesh.... Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. = ) The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. Sheeesh.....  What are you some hick with one front tooth? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals.  Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations.  The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science.  It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net> Cc: <billbeq@mediaone.net>; <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child.  this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <billbeq@mediaone.net>, <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (rly-yh04.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.36]) by air-yh01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:07:17 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:07:00 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA20200; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <022f01c0330e$492cb7c0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <004e01c03305$60ceea00$052a03c7@liber8r> <015701c03305$c883ae60$6720113f@com> <008c01c0330b$48a05da0$052a03c7@liber8r> <01b601c0330b$dc42dc40$6720113f@com> <00dc01c0330d$094ce680$052a03c7@liber8r> <01ee01c0330c$8bdfd4a0$6720113f@com> <011501c0330e$c7fbcaa0$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:03:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_022C_01C032D3.9BB9B0A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: 10-Oct-00 16:08:59 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Bill, read the following article and find ... "Freud thought that belief in gods was a remnant of this childhood impression, that gods were nothing more than supernatural father-figures. In a sense, he may have been correct: he just got it the wrong way around." http://liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka I think Mark needs God but like the child trying to anger God i.e. his parent so that the parent "God" will realize he is reaching out for help! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:51 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Funny, I think logic is not about anger. When I show you the error of your ways, which has you spinning, it is you who is angered. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his anger and frustration. Something in his life did not work out as planned (welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist at God. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining. Once >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from all >the religions and philosophies that are available. > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > >= ) > >Thinking for the both of us, > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >Mark, >You would be a great Christian. With all the energy you spend talking >about >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in >convalescent homes. God Bless you, Bill > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists. God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >>help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >>itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > >>P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >>admitting defeat so easily? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Bequette > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >>Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Morgan > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >> > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >>Life Mist da Mark. > >> > >> > >>>From: "Mark" > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>>CC: > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >>> > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >>> > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >>> > >>>= ) > >>> > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>>again. > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>>simply > >>>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >>> > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >>> > >>>Mark > >>>The Liberator > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >>> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >> > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-za01.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by air-za04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:08:59 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-za01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:08:20 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA09276; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:08:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <011b01c0330f$35e1f260$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <00c601c0330c$98f9b660$052a03c7@liber8r> <01e501c0330c$7a954180$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:09:55 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Date: 10-Oct-00 16:10:23 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), DWise1@AOL.com Bill, do you honestly think that I am an atheist? Doing so, you must believe that Christians are very monolithic indeed. You would be very surprised to learn that many Christians do not believe in Bible literalism as you seem to do. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan ; DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:47 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Bill, I am making headway with this atheist. We agree on something! He is not a monkey's uncle! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan ; DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:48 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide I agree. Our DNA, even though we are 99+% that of chimps, is more distant than the uncle analogy would indicate. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Bill Morgan ; DWise1@AOL.com Cc: editor@liberator.net Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Buddy we are not monkey's uncles!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Cc: editor@liberator.net Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Buddy, they are too chicken to answer your sincere inquiry. trust me! >From: "Bill Bequette" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:38:40 -0700 > >Mr Wise what is your best explanation for the origin of life? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: DWise1@aol.com > Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > > You insulted my wife's faith in Christ and gave that as your reaosn for >not > going to Denny's. > > mr Wise.....give me your best explanation for the origin of life. > > > >From: DWise1@aol.com > >To: > >CC: , , > >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > >Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:30:14 EDT > > > > > > >>I love the intellectual thrust and parry with those of different > >opinions, I have no problem with that.....it is the greatest catalyst > >toward futher research....being challenged....<< > > > >Since when, Bill M? Both Mark and I have observed you in action since > >1996. We have watched you do everything you can to avoid discussion, > >including your favorite trick of laying down rabbit trails. > > > >But then we have not observed you with somebody who doesn't know what >is > >going on. I guess that would make a difference, because you only want >to > >be "challenged" when you can tap-dance rings around the other guy. But > >bring in somebody who knows something about creation science and you >duck > >and run. > > > > >>I just have a hard time with incessant insults and whining from >people > >who will remain nameless.<< > > > >Well, Bill M, if you would stop obstructing the search for truth then > >things would run a whole lot smoother. If only you weren't so afraid >of > >the truth. > > > >For the THIRTIETH TIME, Bill M, substantiate your accusations against >me! > >Tell us what you think I had said! > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd05.mx.aol.com (rly-zd05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.229]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:10:23 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zd05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:10:02 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA09568; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:09:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <012301c0330f$736e2c20$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" , References: <00bd01c032f9$f3f159a0$6720113f@com> <00b601c0330c$44e730c0$052a03c7@liber8r> <01ca01c0330c$100597c0$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:11:40 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: 10-Oct-00 16:12:34 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Why are you referring to Freud? His theories have been disproven years ago. The human mind suffers depression, anxiety, and other disorders due to chemical imbalances. You need to do your homework. = ) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:09 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Bill, read the following article and find ... "Freud thought that belief in gods was a remnant of this childhood impression, that gods were nothing more than supernatural father-figures. In a sense, he may have been correct: he just got it the wrong way around." http://liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka I think Mark needs God but like the child trying to anger God i.e. his parent so that the parent "God" will realize he is reaching out for help! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:51 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Funny, I think logic is not about anger. When I show you the error of your ways, which has you spinning, it is you who is angered. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his anger and frustration. Something in his life did not work out as planned (welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist at God. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining. Once >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from all >the religions and philosophies that are available. > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > >= ) > >Thinking for the both of us, > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >Mark, >You would be a great Christian. With all the energy you spend talking >about >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in >convalescent homes. God Bless you, Bill > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists. God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >>help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >>itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > >>P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >>admitting defeat so easily? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Bequette > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >>Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Morgan > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >> > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >>Life Mist da Mark. > >> > >> > >>>From: "Mark" > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>>CC: > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >>> > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >>> > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >>> > >>>= ) > >>> > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>>again. > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>>simply > >>>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >>> > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >>> > >>>Mark > >>>The Liberator > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >>> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >> > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Why are you referring to Freud?  His theories have been disproven years ago.  The human mind suffers depression, anxiety, and other disorders due to chemical imbalances.  You need to do your homework.
 
= ) 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@AOL.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka
Bill, read the following article and find ... "Freud thought that belief in gods was a remnant of this childhood impression, that gods were nothing more than supernatural father-figures. In a sense, he may have been correct: he just got it the wrong way around." http://liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka I think Mark needs God but like the child trying to anger God i.e. his parent so that the parent "God" will realize he is reaching out for help! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:51 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Funny, I think logic is not about anger.  When I show you the error of your ways, which has you spinning, it is you who is angered. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@AOL.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his anger and frustration.  Something in his life did not work out as planned (welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist at God. >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining.  Once >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from all >the religions and philosophies that are available. > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > >= ) > >Thinking for the both of us, > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >Mark, >You would be a great Christian.  With all the energy you spend talking >about >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in >convalescent homes.  God Bless you, Bill > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> >To: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net>; Bill Morgan ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: DWise1@aol.com <DWise1@aol.com> >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it.  It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too.  BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying.  You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better.  Some people can't >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37].  The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok.  I will stick with my belief system.  I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be.  I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists.  God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> > >To: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net>; Bill Morgan > ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com <DWise1@aol.com> > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >>help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >>itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > >>P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are > >you > >>admitting defeat so easily? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Bequette > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the > >>Lord is on your side.  So go easy. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Morgan > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >> > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >>Life Mist da Mark. > >> > >> > >>>From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >>>CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >>> > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >>> > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>>consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >>> > >>>= ) > >>> > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > >>>again. > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>>simply > >>>too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > >>> > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >>> > >>>Mark > >>>The Liberator > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >>> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >> > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (rly-yh04.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.36]) by air-yh02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:12:34 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:12:05 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA23576; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <023801c0330e$fee73d60$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <00c601c0330c$98f9b660$052a03c7@liber8r> <01e501c0330c$7a954180$6720113f@com> <011b01c0330f$35e1f260$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:08:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0235_01C032D4.519EEFC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: 10-Oct-00 16:12:39 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Have you ever heard of a tautology? BTW, I have a degree in mathematics and a minor in physics. I'm proud to say that my education did not end strictly in those fields. You should give learning a try. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:03 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Wow your a smart one. I bets yous wents 2 schul? I bet you have a Bachelor's in Liberal Arts? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Bill, if you knew anything about logic, you would also know that you offer a cyclical argument. 'How do you know that the Bible information is true?' I ask. You offer, "Because it says so in the Bible." QED. This is just toooo easy. However, I wish this were somehow different than most Christians viewpoints. Many Christians who also have been conditioned to utter these chants think the same as you. It's sad that you do not use the greatest gift you have been given: a brain. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The Bible. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Bill, since you claim to follow science, what evidence do you have that your statement is true? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Ohh ok. Wow... But God made Adam and Eve with perfect genetic structure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy or some force external to the body. A negative genetic characteristic is one brought on by poor genetic pairing. SHeeesh.... Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. = ) The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. Sheeesh..... What are you some hick with one front tooth? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals. Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations. The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science. It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" >CC: , >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Have you ever heard of a tautology?
 
BTW, I have a degree in mathematics and a minor in physics.  I'm proud to say that my education did not end strictly in those fields.  You should give learning a try.
 
= )
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Mark ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
Wow your a smart one.  I bets yous wents 2 schul?  I bet you have a Bachelor's in Liberal Arts?
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
Bill, if you knew anything about logic, you would also know that you offer a cyclical argument.  'How do you know that the Bible information is true?' I ask.  You offer, "Because it says so in the Bible."
 
QED.
 
This is just toooo easy.  However, I wish this were somehow different than most Christians viewpoints.  Many Christians who also have been conditioned to utter these chants think the same as you.  It's sad that you do not use the greatest gift you have been given: a brain.
 
= )
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Mark ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
The Bible.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
Bill, since you claim to follow science, what evidence do you have that your statement is true? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Ohh ok.  Wow...  But God made Adam and Eve with perfect genetic structure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy or some force external to the body.  A negative genetic characteristic is one brought on by poor genetic pairing. SHeeesh.... Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. = ) The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. Sheeesh.....  What are you some hick with one front tooth? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals.  Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations.  The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science.  It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net> Cc: <billbeq@mediaone.net>; <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child.  this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <billbeq@mediaone.net>, <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (rly-yh04.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.36]) by air-yh04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:12:39 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:12:00 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA09837; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:11:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <012c01c0330f$b8600380$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <004e01c03305$60ceea00$052a03c7@liber8r> <015701c03305$c883ae60$6720113f@com> <008c01c0330b$48a05da0$052a03c7@liber8r> <01b601c0330b$dc42dc40$6720113f@com> <00dc01c0330d$094ce680$052a03c7@liber8r> <01ee01c0330c$8bdfd4a0$6720113f@com> <011501c0330e$c7fbcaa0$052a03c7@liber8r> <022f01c0330e$492cb7c0$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:13:36 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0129_01C032E5.CEC9B8C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 16:13:47 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com What's your definition of 'God'? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:01 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch So you admit that God exists? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch According to your theory of God creating the Universe, I'd rather use his greater gift: the brain. It entitles me to think, which is far more helpful then praying ever was. = ) If I was in a hospital, I'd rather have doctors working on me than people praying for me. Get it? = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:42 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Try praying!!! God loves you! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Bill, to follow your belief that God created the Universe and consequently my brain came to be, it would be immoral for me not to use it. I would be breaking God's law by not using it! = ) You should try it sometime and please your God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Your lucky God gave you the chance to feel sorry. Someday God will be judging you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance to a Christian God than kids with Cancer. That's sad. I feel sorry for you and the God you worship. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty God. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Jock itch God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves them he keeps them humble. I know God is not a raider fan. If you wash more your jock itch will go away. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray >for >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I >sent >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are >you >admitting defeat so easily? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the >Lord is on your side. So go easy. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin of >Life Mist da Mark. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are acceptable? > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > >= ) > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >again. > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >simply > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Date: 10-Oct-00 16:13:48 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, me typing forever is impossible. If you knew anything about unbounded time, you would know this to be true. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:02 PM Subject: Re: Then I am a goof ball for believing it! The great thing about the Bible is it is a finite amount of writing. Where as you will keep typing forvever...... ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:57 PM Subject: Then I am a goof ball for believing it! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:28:23 -0500 > >The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some >which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You give >the manmade Bible too much credit. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >The answer is in the Bible Mark! > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > > > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > > > >= ) > > > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > > > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > > > > > >An impartial judge has ruled: > >Bill 10 > >Liberal 0 > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > > >thought > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a > > >ship > > > >in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > > >if > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and >spend > >so > > > >much > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told > >you > > > >that > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > > >quite > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so >long. > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > > >easier > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a > >few > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > >Mark > > > >The Liberator > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.4]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:13:48 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:13:08 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA09919; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:12:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <013201c0330f$db4f30a0$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <022501c0330e$235c8ac0$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Then I am a goof ball for believing it! Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:14:35 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: 10-Oct-00 16:14:25 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Good then you should understand the following: sinner + unbeliever = to hell you go ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Have you ever heard of a tautology? BTW, I have a degree in mathematics and a minor in physics. I'm proud to say that my education did not end strictly in those fields. You should give learning a try. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:03 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Wow your a smart one. I bets yous wents 2 schul? I bet you have a Bachelor's in Liberal Arts? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Bill, if you knew anything about logic, you would also know that you offer a cyclical argument. 'How do you know that the Bible information is true?' I ask. You offer, "Because it says so in the Bible." QED. This is just toooo easy. However, I wish this were somehow different than most Christians viewpoints. Many Christians who also have been conditioned to utter these chants think the same as you. It's sad that you do not use the greatest gift you have been given: a brain. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The Bible. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Bill, since you claim to follow science, what evidence do you have that your statement is true? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Ohh ok. Wow... But God made Adam and Eve with perfect genetic structure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy or some force external to the body. A negative genetic characteristic is one brought on by poor genetic pairing. SHeeesh.... Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. = ) The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. Sheeesh..... What are you some hick with one front tooth? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals. Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations. The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science. It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" >CC: , >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
Good then you should understand the following:
sinner + unbeliever = to hell you go
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
Have you ever heard of a tautology?
 
BTW, I have a degree in mathematics and a minor in physics.  I'm proud to say that my education did not end strictly in those fields.  You should give learning a try.
 
= )
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Mark ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
Wow your a smart one.  I bets yous wents 2 schul?  I bet you have a Bachelor's in Liberal Arts?
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
Bill, if you knew anything about logic, you would also know that you offer a cyclical argument.  'How do you know that the Bible information is true?' I ask.  You offer, "Because it says so in the Bible."
 
QED.
 
This is just toooo easy.  However, I wish this were somehow different than most Christians viewpoints.  Many Christians who also have been conditioned to utter these chants think the same as you.  It's sad that you do not use the greatest gift you have been given: a brain.
 
= )
 
Mark
The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bequette
To: Mark ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
The Bible.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
Bill, since you claim to follow science, what evidence do you have that your statement is true? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Ohh ok.  Wow...  But God made Adam and Eve with perfect genetic structure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy or some force external to the body.  A negative genetic characteristic is one brought on by poor genetic pairing. SHeeesh.... Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. = ) The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. Sheeesh.....  What are you some hick with one front tooth? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals.  Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations.  The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science.  It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net> Cc: <billbeq@mediaone.net>; <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child.  this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <billbeq@mediaone.net>, <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (rly-yh04.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.36]) by air-yh05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:14:25 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:13:41 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA24567; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <024201c0330f$3771ba20$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <004e01c03305$60ceea00$052a03c7@liber8r> <015701c03305$c883ae60$6720113f@com> <008c01c0330b$48a05da0$052a03c7@liber8r> <01b601c0330b$dc42dc40$6720113f@com> <00dc01c0330d$094ce680$052a03c7@liber8r> <01ee01c0330c$8bdfd4a0$6720113f@com> <011501c0330e$c7fbcaa0$052a03c7@liber8r> <022f01c0330e$492cb7c0$6720113f@com> <012c01c0330f$b8600380$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:09:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_023F_01C032D4.8A27E5E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 16:15:27 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Weeellll. I would hate to get the Christian God's priorities out of order. It's nice to know that your God gives kids at least a passing thought. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch Or Raiders! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I NEVER said that! I said the buffalo Bills were more important than kids with cancer. not all football games are. Kids with cancer are more than Chrger games. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Jock itch >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:26:44 -0500 > >I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more >important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty >God. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM >Subject: Jock itch > > >God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves >them he keeps them humble. > >I know God is not a raider fan. > >If you wash more your jock itch will go away. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > > >again. > > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > > >simply > > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (rly-zc05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.5]) by air-zc03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:15:27 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:14:53 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA10158; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:14:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <013e01c03310$19401fa0$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <021001c0330d$f19a8140$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:16:19 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: 10-Oct-00 16:17:32 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, Clinton frequently goes to church. Do you watch the news? Can't you see that going to church -- as if a special holyground can modify behavior -- is a joke? I never leave church Bill. That's the difference between me and Christianity as it is interpretted by people like you. You don't even comprehend what you read. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:00 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? I know Clinton hasn't read the Bible. Since I don't worship Darwin I wouldn't know. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:57 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, that Bible quote sure did clear up things. That book is soooo helpful. = ) Do you think Darwin used it for his Origin of the Species? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:41 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Thanks for confirming what the Bible states and that is babies don't come from mud. Or rather "We are not one with the mud". Isn't that a REM song? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:38 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, if you show me a scientific theory that states babies came from mud, I'll show you an invalid theory. Instead, your oversimplification of a known scientific theory is in error -- not the theory itself. If you learn more about science, you will appreciate it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:04 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Babies. Children are proof of all the Bible's glorious wonders. Babies did not evolve from mud. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Totally False. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > > >in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > > >much > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told >you > > >that > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > >quite > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > >easier > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a >few > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh03.mx.aol.com (rly-yh03.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.35]) by air-yh03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:17:32 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yh03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:17:00 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA10469; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:16:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <014401c03310$6ab34240$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <001301c03301$055ae240$052a03c7@liber8r> <014101c03303$9698f920$6720113f@com> <006401c03305$d691b420$052a03c7@liber8r> <016301c03306$085b5ec0$6720113f@com> <008601c0330a$d4aa6440$052a03c7@liber8r> <019b01c0330b$4137b2c0$6720113f@com> <00f901c0330d$81845a20$052a03c7@liber8r> <020301c0330d$d664de20$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:18:35 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 10-Oct-00 16:19:04 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com I either believe what? I am a believer but not a believer of your dogmatic, mindnumbing version of Christianity. The Bible wasn't meant to be taken literally you dolt. = ) Get a clue. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? You either believe or you don't. The Bible is by God not byman. Sinple. If you feel otherwise then so be it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill, reading the Bible is reading the word of man. We are all inspired to write and the writers of the Bible were no more inspired by God than a dog who licks himself. I bet the dog gets far more pleasure from the ritual. That's for sure. It's also far more beneficial since there is a biological reason to clear one's glands. This blows a hole in the whole masterbation debate that is aspoused from Christians. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:37 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Read the word of GOD in the Bible then you will understand! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill Morgan , you wrote: "I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any." What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an inherited genetic trait. "God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create such a thing? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects. That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.5]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:19:04 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:18:33 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA10746; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:18:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <014a01c03310$a3fe01c0$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <006f01c03309$b603d2c0$052a03c7@liber8r> <018901c0330a$beb81b00$6720113f@com> <010a01c0330e$3ca55200$052a03c7@liber8r> <01f901c0330d$b5d1f080$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:20:11 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 16:20:25 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com So God -- your version it it anyway -- places kids with cancer second to certain types of football games? Even in jest this is a sad comment indeed. I feel sorry for you. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:56 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I NEVER said that! I said the buffalo Bills were more important than kids with cancer. not all football games are. Kids with cancer are more than Chrger games. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Jock itch >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:26:44 -0500 > >I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more >important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty >God. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM >Subject: Jock itch > > >God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves >them he keeps them humble. > >I know God is not a raider fan. > >If you wash more your jock itch will go away. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > > >again. > > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > > >simply > > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-ye04.mx.aol.com (rly-ye04.mail.aol.com [172.18.151.201]) by air-ye01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:20:25 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-ye04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:19:54 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA10920; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:19:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <014f01c03310$d55cdca0$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:21:34 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: 10-Oct-00 16:23:54 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, that scare-tactic is useless on those who think. If you think a scare-tactic can make someone truly believe in God, then you are more stupid than I think you are. If God is all-knowing, it would know who believes in God for 'insurance' purposes. You can't pretend to believe in God in order to get to heaven, that is if God is all-knowing. Now if you're saying that God is a fool... If he is a fool, then anything goes. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Good then you should understand the following: sinner + unbeliever = to hell you go ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Have you ever heard of a tautology? BTW, I have a degree in mathematics and a minor in physics. I'm proud to say that my education did not end strictly in those fields. You should give learning a try. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:03 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Wow your a smart one. I bets yous wents 2 schul? I bet you have a Bachelor's in Liberal Arts? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Bill, if you knew anything about logic, you would also know that you offer a cyclical argument. 'How do you know that the Bible information is true?' I ask. You offer, "Because it says so in the Bible." QED. This is just toooo easy. However, I wish this were somehow different than most Christians viewpoints. Many Christians who also have been conditioned to utter these chants think the same as you. It's sad that you do not use the greatest gift you have been given: a brain. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The Bible. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Bill, since you claim to follow science, what evidence do you have that your statement is true? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Ohh ok. Wow... But God made Adam and Eve with perfect genetic structure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy or some force external to the body. A negative genetic characteristic is one brought on by poor genetic pairing. SHeeesh.... Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. = ) The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. Sheeesh..... What are you some hick with one front tooth? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' "common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to me.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related individuals. Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to incestuous relations. The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. It's no wonder why you reject science. It's because you don't understand it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: Cain's wife The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of mutations. You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree with that? Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" >CC: , >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of science? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) by air-zd05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:23:54 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:23:19 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA11300; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:23:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <015701c03311$4f937ba0$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <004e01c03305$60ceea00$052a03c7@liber8r> <015701c03305$c883ae60$6720113f@com> <008c01c0330b$48a05da0$052a03c7@liber8r> <01b601c0330b$dc42dc40$6720113f@com> <00dc01c0330d$094ce680$052a03c7@liber8r> <01ee01c0330c$8bdfd4a0$6720113f@com> <011501c0330e$c7fbcaa0$052a03c7@liber8r> <022f01c0330e$492cb7c0$6720113f@com> <012c01c0330f$b8600380$052a03c7@liber8r> <024201c0330f$3771ba20$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:24:59 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: 10-Oct-00 16:26:13 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Social interaction -- or lack thereof -- can affect chemistry. Therefore, Freud and the chemistry theories are not at odds with one another. Think man... You're sinning again. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:08 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Why are you referring to Freud? His theories have been disproven years ago. The human mind suffers depression, anxiety, and other disorders due to chemical imbalances. You need to do your homework. = ) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:09 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Bill, read the following article and find ... "Freud thought that belief in gods was a remnant of this childhood impression, that gods were nothing more than supernatural father-figures. In a sense, he may have been correct: he just got it the wrong way around." http://liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka I think Mark needs God but like the child trying to anger God i.e. his parent so that the parent "God" will realize he is reaching out for help! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:51 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Funny, I think logic is not about anger. When I show you the error of your ways, which has you spinning, it is you who is angered. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his anger and frustration. Something in his life did not work out as planned (welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist at God. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining. Once >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from all >the religions and philosophies that are available. > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > >= ) > >Thinking for the both of us, > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >Mark, >You would be a great Christian. With all the energy you spend talking >about >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in >convalescent homes. God Bless you, Bill > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists. God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >>help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >>itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > >>P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >>admitting defeat so easily? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Bequette > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >>Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Morgan > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >> > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >>Life Mist da Mark. > >> > >> > >>>From: "Mark" > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>>CC: > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >>> > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >>> > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >>> > >>>= ) > >>> > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>>again. > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>>simply > >>>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >>> > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >>> > >>>Mark > >>>The Liberator > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >>> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >> > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh05.mx.aol.com (rly-yh05.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.37]) by air-yh01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:26:13 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yh05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:25:16 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA11529; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:25:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <015d01c03311$9125ad40$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <00c601c0330c$98f9b660$052a03c7@liber8r> <01e501c0330c$7a954180$6720113f@com> <011b01c0330f$35e1f260$052a03c7@liber8r> <023801c0330e$fee73d60$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:26:49 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 10-Oct-00 16:28:21 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Jesus loves you! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? I either believe what? I am a believer but not a believer of your dogmatic, mindnumbing version of Christianity. The Bible wasn't meant to be taken literally you dolt. = ) Get a clue. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? You either believe or you don't. The Bible is by God not byman. Sinple. If you feel otherwise then so be it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill, reading the Bible is reading the word of man. We are all inspired to write and the writers of the Bible were no more inspired by God than a dog who licks himself. I bet the dog gets far more pleasure from the ritual. That's for sure. It's also far more beneficial since there is a biological reason to clear one's glands. This blows a hole in the whole masterbation debate that is aspoused from Christians. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:37 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Read the word of GOD in the Bible then you will understand! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill Morgan , you wrote: "I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any." What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an inherited genetic trait. "God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create such a thing? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects. That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet?
I either believe what? I am a believer but not a believer of your dogmatic, mindnumbing version of Christianity.  The Bible wasn't meant to be taken literally you dolt. = ) Get a clue. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? You either believe or you don't.  The Bible is by God not byman.  Sinple. If you feel otherwise then so be it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill, reading the Bible is reading the word of man.  We are all inspired to write and the writers of the Bible were no more inspired by God than a dog who licks himself. I bet the dog gets far more pleasure from the ritual.  That's for sure. It's also far more beneficial since there is a biological reason to clear one's glands.  This blows a hole in the whole masterbation debate that is aspoused from Christians. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:37 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Read the word of GOD in the Bible then you will understand! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: "I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any." What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an inherited genetic trait. "God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create such a thing? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question.  Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects.  That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> >To: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net <billbeq@mediaone.net>; DWise1@aol.com ><DWise1@aol.com> >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc04.mx.aol.com (rly-zc04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.4]) by air-zc01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:28:21 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zc04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:27:39 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA03656; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <025301c03311$2aab3da0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <006f01c03309$b603d2c0$052a03c7@liber8r> <018901c0330a$beb81b00$6720113f@com> <010a01c0330e$3ca55200$052a03c7@liber8r> <01f901c0330d$b5d1f080$6720113f@com> <014a01c03310$a3fe01c0$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:23:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0250_01C032D6.7D2F0EC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Date: 10-Oct-00 16:28:36 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:18 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, Clinton frequently goes to church. Do you watch the news? Can't you see that going to church -- as if a special holyground can modify behavior -- is a joke? I never leave church Bill. That's the difference between me and Christianity as it is interpretted by people like you. You don't even comprehend what you read. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:00 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? I know Clinton hasn't read the Bible. Since I don't worship Darwin I wouldn't know. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:57 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, that Bible quote sure did clear up things. That book is soooo helpful. = ) Do you think Darwin used it for his Origin of the Species? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:41 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Thanks for confirming what the Bible states and that is babies don't come from mud. Or rather "We are not one with the mud". Isn't that a REM song? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:38 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, if you show me a scientific theory that states babies came from mud, I'll show you an invalid theory. Instead, your oversimplification of a known scientific theory is in error -- not the theory itself. If you learn more about science, you will appreciate it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:04 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Babies. Children are proof of all the Bible's glorious wonders. Babies did not evolve from mud. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Totally False. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > > >in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > > >much > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told >you > > >that > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > >quite > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > >easier > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a >few > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------
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From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place?
Bill, Clinton frequently goes to church.  Do you watch the news?  Can't you see that going to church -- as if a special holyground can modify behavior -- is a joke? I never leave church Bill.  That's the difference between me and Christianity as it is interpretted by people like you. You don't even comprehend what you read. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:00 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? I know Clinton hasn't read the Bible.  Since I don't worship Darwin I wouldn't know. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:57 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, that Bible quote sure did clear up things.  That book is soooo helpful. = ) Do you think Darwin used it for his Origin of the Species? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:41 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Thanks for confirming what the Bible states and that is babies don't come from mud.  Or rather "We are not one with the mud".  Isn't that a REM song? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:38 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, if you show me a scientific theory that states babies came from mud, I'll show you an invalid theory.  Instead, your oversimplification of a known scientific theory is in error -- not the theory itself. If you learn more about science, you will appreciate it. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:04 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Babies.  Children are proof of all the Bible's glorious wonders.  Babies did not evolve from mud. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? Totally False. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths.  You give the manmade Bible too much credit. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a ship in the first place? The answer is in the Bible Mark! >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > >= ) > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >An impartial judge has ruled: >Bill 10 >Liberal 0 > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <editor@liberator.net> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > >10 points to Bill > >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   From: Bill Morgan > >   To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >   Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >   Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > >   Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > >   Mark, I apologized.  Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > >thought > >   you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > >   >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >   >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >   >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >   >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship > >   >in the first place? > >   >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > >   > > >   >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >   > > >   >"Mark:  why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out >that > >if > >   >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and spend >so > >   >much > >   >time angry about it?" > >   > > >   >Bill, I didn't ignore it.  You must have missed the letter.  I told >you > >   >that > >   >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction.  In fact, I find it > >quite > >   >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so long. > >   > > >   >= ) > >   > > >   >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories.  I guess it's > >easier > >   >than believing reality.  That's their call.  It's my right to get a >few > >   >chuckles out of it. > >   > > >   >Mark > >   >The Liberator > >   >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >   >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >   > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >   Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >   http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:24:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0259_01C032D6.8FC7CCC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: 10-Oct-00 16:30:35 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Really? Well virtually the entire medical community would find your opinions humorous to say the least. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:26 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Social interaction -- or lack thereof -- can affect chemistry. Therefore, Freud and the chemistry theories are not at odds with one another. Think man... You're sinning again. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:08 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Why are you referring to Freud? His theories have been disproven years ago. The human mind suffers depression, anxiety, and other disorders due to chemical imbalances. You need to do your homework. = ) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:09 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Bill, read the following article and find ... "Freud thought that belief in gods was a remnant of this childhood impression, that gods were nothing more than supernatural father-figures. In a sense, he may have been correct: he just got it the wrong way around." http://liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka I think Mark needs God but like the child trying to anger God i.e. his parent so that the parent "God" will realize he is reaching out for help! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:51 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Funny, I think logic is not about anger. When I show you the error of your ways, which has you spinning, it is you who is angered. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his anger and frustration. Something in his life did not work out as planned (welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist at God. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining. Once >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from all >the religions and philosophies that are available. > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > >= ) > >Thinking for the both of us, > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >Mark, >You would be a great Christian. With all the energy you spend talking >about >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in >convalescent homes. God Bless you, Bill > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists. God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >>help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >>itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > >>P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >>admitting defeat so easily? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Bequette > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >>Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Morgan > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >> > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >>Life Mist da Mark. > >> > >> > >>>From: "Mark" > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>>CC: > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >>> > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >>> > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >>> > >>>= ) > >>> > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>>again. > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>>simply > >>>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >>> > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >>> > >>>Mark > >>>The Liberator > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >>> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >> > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Really?  Well virtually the entire medical community would find your opinions humorous to say the least. :) 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@AOL.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka
Social interaction -- or lack thereof -- can affect chemistry.  Therefore, Freud and the chemistry theories are not at odds with one another. Think man...  You're sinning again. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:08 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Why are you referring to Freud?  His theories have been disproven years ago. The human mind suffers depression, anxiety, and other disorders due to chemical imbalances.  You need to do your homework. = ) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:09 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Bill, read the following article and find ... "Freud thought that belief in gods was a remnant of this childhood impression, that gods were nothing more than supernatural father-figures. In a sense, he may have been correct: he just got it the wrong way around." http://liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka I think Mark needs God but like the child trying to anger God i.e. his parent so that the parent "God" will realize he is reaching out for help! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:51 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Funny, I think logic is not about anger.  When I show you the error of your ways, which has you spinning, it is you who is angered. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@AOL.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his anger and frustration.  Something in his life did not work out as planned (welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist at God. >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining.  Once >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from all >the religions and philosophies that are available. > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > >= ) > >Thinking for the both of us, > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >Mark, >You would be a great Christian.  With all the energy you spend talking >about >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in >convalescent homes.  God Bless you, Bill > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> >To: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net>; Bill Morgan ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >Cc: DWise1@aol.com <DWise1@aol.com> >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it.  It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too.  BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying.  You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better.  Some people can't >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37].  The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok.  I will stick with my belief system.  I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be.  I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists.  God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> > >To: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net>; Bill Morgan > ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com <DWise1@aol.com> > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >>help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >>itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > >>P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are > >you > >>admitting defeat so easily? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Bequette > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the > >>Lord is on your side.  So go easy. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Morgan > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >> > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >>Life Mist da Mark. > >> > >> > >>>From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >>>CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >>> > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >>> > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>>consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >>> > >>>= ) > >>> > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > >>>again. > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>>simply > >>>too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > >>> > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >>> > >>>Mark > >>>The Liberator > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >>> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >> > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-za05.mx.aol.com (rly-za05.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.101]) by air-za01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:30:35 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-za05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:29:47 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA05239; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <026501c03311$774efde0$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <00c601c0330c$98f9b660$052a03c7@liber8r> <01e501c0330c$7a954180$6720113f@com> <011b01c0330f$35e1f260$052a03c7@liber8r> <023801c0330e$fee73d60$6720113f@com> <015d01c03311$9125ad40$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:26:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0262_01C032D6.C9ECBFA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 16:30:37 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com boo hoo ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch So God -- your version it it anyway -- places kids with cancer second to certain types of football games? Even in jest this is a sad comment indeed. I feel sorry for you. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:56 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I NEVER said that! I said the buffalo Bills were more important than kids with cancer. not all football games are. Kids with cancer are more than Chrger games. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Jock itch >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:26:44 -0500 > >I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more >important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty >God. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM >Subject: Jock itch > > >God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves >them he keeps them humble. > >I know God is not a raider fan. > >If you wash more your jock itch will go away. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > > >again. > > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > > >simply > > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: Jock itch
So God -- your version it it anyway -- places kids with cancer second to certain types of football games?  Even in jest this is a sad comment indeed. I feel sorry for you. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:56 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I NEVER said that! I said the buffalo Bills were more important than kids with cancer.  not all football games are.  Kids with cancer are more than Chrger games. >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Jock itch >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:26:44 -0500 > >I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more >important than kids with cancer.  It must be sad for you to worship a petty >God. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM >Subject: Jock itch > > >God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves >them he keeps them humble. > >I know God is not a raider fan. > >If you wash more your jock itch will go away. > > > >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" > ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >help.  I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch.  Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S.  I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages].  Are > >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win.  These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side.  So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> > > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > > >consequently so enjoyable.  Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you.  Here they are > > >again. > > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > > >simply > > >too intimidated by a challenge.  Either way, I understand. > > > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb04.mx.aol.com (rly-zb04.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.4]) by air-zb04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:30:37 -0400 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by rly-zb04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:30:16 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust103.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.103]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA05503; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <027001c03311$88874180$6720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <014f01c03310$d55cdca0$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:26:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_026D_01C032D6.DB2CA460" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 10-Oct-00 16:34:14 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Another Christian soundbite... How can a fictitious character love a living being? Can Hamlet, Peter Pan, Bart Simpson, and Mickey Mouse love me too? You crack me up. = ) The next thing you are going to tell me is that Satan is out to get little ol' me too. SHeeesh... Some people still think with medieval mindsets. Ever read a book other than the Bible? Why value one manmade text over another? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:23 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Jesus loves you! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? I either believe what? I am a believer but not a believer of your dogmatic, mindnumbing version of Christianity. The Bible wasn't meant to be taken literally you dolt. = ) Get a clue. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? You either believe or you don't. The Bible is by God not byman. Sinple. If you feel otherwise then so be it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill, reading the Bible is reading the word of man. We are all inspired to write and the writers of the Bible were no more inspired by God than a dog who licks himself. I bet the dog gets far more pleasure from the ritual. That's for sure. It's also far more beneficial since there is a biological reason to clear one's glands. This blows a hole in the whole masterbation debate that is aspoused from Christians. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:37 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Read the word of GOD in the Bible then you will understand! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill Morgan , you wrote: "I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over time, thus back then there were few if any." What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an inherited genetic trait. "God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create such a thing? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light of >defects caused by incestuous relations? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > >Mark, >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth >defects. That is God's answer. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-za05.mx.aol.com (rly-za05.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.101]) by air-za02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:34:14 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-za05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:33:08 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA12442; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:33:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <016501c03312$af691020$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <006f01c03309$b603d2c0$052a03c7@liber8r> <018901c0330a$beb81b00$6720113f@com> <010a01c0330e$3ca55200$052a03c7@liber8r> <01f901c0330d$b5d1f080$6720113f@com> <014a01c03310$a3fe01c0$052a03c7@liber8r> <025301c03311$2aab3da0$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:34:49 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 10-Oct-00 16:35:22 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Don't feel sorry for me, Billy. Feel sorry for your own flawed view of God. It's pathetic and it's childlike. = ) I feel sorry for you and those who you try and convince with your drivel. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch boo hoo ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch So God -- your version it it anyway -- places kids with cancer second to certain types of football games? Even in jest this is a sad comment indeed. I feel sorry for you. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:56 PM Subject: Re: Jock itch I NEVER said that! I said the buffalo Bills were more important than kids with cancer. not all football games are. Kids with cancer are more than Chrger games. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Jock itch >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:26:44 -0500 > >I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more >important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty >God. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM >Subject: Jock itch > > >God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves >them he keeps them humble. > >I know God is not a raider fan. > >If you wash more your jock itch will go away. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > > >again. > > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > > >simply > > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (rly-zc05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.5]) by air-zc01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:35:22 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:34:46 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA12742; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:34:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <016b01c03312$e9a66d00$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <014f01c03310$d55cdca0$052a03c7@liber8r> <027001c03311$88874180$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:36:27 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: 10-Oct-00 16:37:40 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Are you saying that the medical community feels that social interaction does not affect body chemistry or at least the body's dynamics? I hope not. Did you know petting animals lowers bloodpressure? Right now, I'm petting you, which is great for my blood pressure. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:26 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Really? Well virtually the entire medical community would find your opinions humorous to say the least. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:26 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Social interaction -- or lack thereof -- can affect chemistry. Therefore, Freud and the chemistry theories are not at odds with one another. Think man... You're sinning again. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:08 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Why are you referring to Freud? His theories have been disproven years ago. The human mind suffers depression, anxiety, and other disorders due to chemical imbalances. You need to do your homework. = ) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:09 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Bill, read the following article and find ... "Freud thought that belief in gods was a remnant of this childhood impression, that gods were nothing more than supernatural father-figures. In a sense, he may have been correct: he just got it the wrong way around." http://liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka I think Mark needs God but like the child trying to anger God i.e. his parent so that the parent "God" will realize he is reaching out for help! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:51 PM Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Funny, I think logic is not about anger. When I show you the error of your ways, which has you spinning, it is you who is angered. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:33 PM Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his anger and frustration. Something in his life did not work out as planned (welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist at God. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining. Once >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from all >the religions and philosophies that are available. > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > >= ) > >Thinking for the both of us, > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > >Mark, >You would be a great Christian. With all the energy you spend talking >about >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in >convalescent homes. God Bless you, Bill > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists. God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >>help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >>itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > >> > >>= ) > >> > >>Mark > >>The Liberator > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >> > >>P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >>admitting defeat so easily? > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Bequette > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >>Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Bill Morgan > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >> > >> > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > >> > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >>Life Mist da Mark. > >> > >> > >>>From: "Mark" > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" , > >>>CC: > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > >>> > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > >>> > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > >>>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > >>> > >>>= ) > >>> > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > >>>again. > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > >>>simply > >>>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > >>> > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > >>> > >>>Mark > >>>The Liberator > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >>> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > >> > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > >> > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc04.mx.aol.com (rly-yc04.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.36]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:37:40 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yc04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:37:02 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA12972; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:36:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <017101c03313$3b2bdf20$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <00c601c0330c$98f9b660$052a03c7@liber8r> <01e501c0330c$7a954180$6720113f@com> <011b01c0330f$35e1f260$052a03c7@liber8r> <023801c0330e$fee73d60$6720113f@com> <015d01c03311$9125ad40$052a03c7@liber8r> <026501c03311$774efde0$6720113f@com> Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:38:44 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################