################################################ Subj: I thot I thaw a puddy cat! Date: 11-Oct-00 06:49:20 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Don't feel sorry fo rme until you answer my question: how did life originate? Notice Bill how they hate this question even more than a pussy cat hates water? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Jock itch >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:36:27 -0500 > >Don't feel sorry for me, Billy. Feel sorry for your own flawed view of >God. >It's pathetic and it's childlike. > >= ) > >I feel sorry for you and those who you try and convince with your drivel. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:26 PM >Subject: Re: Jock itch > > >boo hoo >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:21 PM >Subject: Re: Jock itch > > >So God -- your version it it anyway -- places kids with cancer second to >certain types of football games? Even in jest this is a sad comment >indeed. > >I feel sorry for you. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:56 PM >Subject: Re: Jock itch > > >I NEVER said that! > >I said the buffalo Bills were more important than kids with cancer. not >all >football games are. Kids with cancer are more than Chrger games. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Jock itch > >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:26:44 -0500 > > > >I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be >more > >important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a >petty > >God. > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: ; > >Cc: > >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM > >Subject: Jock itch > > > > > >God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he >loves > >them he keeps them humble. > > > >I know God is not a raider fan. > > > >If you wash more your jock itch will go away. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > > > >CC: > > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > > > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often >pray > > >for > > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > > >sent > > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. >Are > > >you > > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Bill Bequette > > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when >the > > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Bill Morgan > > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin > >of > > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > > > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are > >acceptable? > > > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > > > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > > > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > > > >again. > > > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > > > >simply > > > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > > > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > > > > > >Mark > > > >The Liberator > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb04.mx.aol.com (rly-zb04.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.4]) by air-zb03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:49:20 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f136.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.136]) by rly-zb04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:48:58 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 06:48:53 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:48:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: I thot I thaw a puddy cat! Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:48:53 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 13:48:53.0335 (UTC) FILETIME=[FE1EEE70:01C03389] ################################################ Subj: Johnny Cochrane asks the witness: Date: 11-Oct-00 06:53:37 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Lets talk science: How did life originate? I know you won't answer. Don't fight science Mark. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:57:49 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"Show me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter >person. Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness." > >Hmmm.... I find your statement to be quite interesting. You are skeptical >of science and reason yet I am a believer in science and reason. Does that >make you an angry, bitter person? > >"Greg Laurie said once: even if Christianity were not true (and all four >of >us know it is true)..." > >Then prove it is true. > >"...it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial." > >Yet you deny science. Interesting... > >There used to be a time when philosophers studied God by studying the >Universe, which included science of course. Now certain religious people >no >longer feel the natural laws that your Christian God created [you assume >that God created the Universe] are worthy of studying and analyzing. If >you >assume that your Christian God entitled us with a cerebrum we should not >use, then either your interpretation of the Christian God is in error or >your God is not worthy of such worship. > >"Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote >about 2000 years ago! Amen!" > >Read Megatrends by John Naisbitt. Now there's a book that does a great job >predicting the future and those predictions are not super vague like those >in the Bible. Bible prophecy is so vague it can be used to nearly explain >anything you can imagine. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (rly-yb01.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.1]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:53:36 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f53.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.53]) by rly-yb01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:53:09 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 06:53:07 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:53:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: Johnny Cochrane asks the witness: Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:53:07 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 13:53:07.0768 (UTC) FILETIME=[95C65380:01C0338A] ################################################ Subj: Jack Webb Date: 11-Oct-00 06:54:32 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net, DWise1@aol.com I will someday honest. how did life originate? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , , > >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:38:52 -0500 > >Bill, I'm still waiting for you guys to respond to the articles/thoughts at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ . > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > >Buddy, they are too chicken to answer your sincere inquiry. trust me! > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:38:40 -0700 > > > >Mr Wise what is your best explanation for the origin of life? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: DWise1@aol.com > > Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:22 PM > > Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > > > > > You insulted my wife's faith in Christ and gave that as your reaosn >for > >not > > going to Denny's. > > > > mr Wise.....give me your best explanation for the origin of life. > > > > > > >From: DWise1@aol.com > > >To: > > >CC: , , > > >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > >Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:30:14 EDT > > > > > > > > > >>I love the intellectual thrust and parry with those of different > > >opinions, I have no problem with that.....it is the greatest catalyst > > >toward futher research....being challenged....<< > > > > > >Since when, Bill M? Both Mark and I have observed you in action >since > > >1996. We have watched you do everything you can to avoid discussion, > > >including your favorite trick of laying down rabbit trails. > > > > > >But then we have not observed you with somebody who doesn't know what > >is > > >going on. I guess that would make a difference, because you only >want > >to > > >be "challenged" when you can tap-dance rings around the other guy. >But > > >bring in somebody who knows something about creation science and you > >duck > > >and run. > > > > > > >>I just have a hard time with incessant insults and whining from > >people > > >who will remain nameless.<< > > > > > >Well, Bill M, if you would stop obstructing the search for truth then > > >things would run a whole lot smoother. If only you weren't so afraid > >of > > >the truth. > > > > > >For the THIRTIETH TIME, Bill M, substantiate your accusations against > >me! > > >Tell us what you think I had said! > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (rly-yg03.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.3]) by air-yg04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:54:32 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f260.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.37]) by rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:54:04 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 06:54:03 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:54:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net, DWise1@aol.com Subject: Jack Webb Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:54:03 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 13:54:03.0682 (UTC) FILETIME=[B71A2020:01C0338A] ################################################ Subj: The bird is asleep Date: 11-Oct-00 06:56:50 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net CC: billbeq@mediaone.net, DWise1@aol.com Wow are you ignorant of biology! Provide me the term for "negative genetic characteristic" without using the word mutation. Thats like the Monty Python skit of them saying the bird is not dead...its sleeping. I really want to hear what this negative genetic characteristic is if it is not a mutation! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" >CC: , >Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:37:19 -0500 > >The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of >mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related >individuals. Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the >likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to >incestuous relations. The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of >the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. > >Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. >It's no wonder why you reject science. It's because you don't understand >it. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: >Cc: ; >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM >Subject: Cain's wife > > >The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of >mutations. >You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher >risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical >inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. > >Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years >ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree >with that? > >Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" > >CC: , > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. > >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd02.mx.aol.com (rly-yd02.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.2]) by air-yd04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:56:50 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f39.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.39]) by rly-yd02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:56:14 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 06:56:14 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:56:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net, DWise1@aol.com Subject: The bird is asleep Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:56:13 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 13:56:14.0286 (UTC) FILETIME=[04F2B6E0:01C0338B] ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 11-Oct-00 06:58:33 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com I told you that Buffalo Bills games are more important than kids with cancer. Do not misquote me. I know you are wise enough to recognize sarcasm. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Jock itch >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:01:03 -0500 > >Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance >to a Christian God than kids with Cancer. > >That's sad. I feel sorry for you and the God you worship. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Bequette > To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: Jock itch > > > If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark > To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: Jock itch > > > I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be >more > important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a >petty > God. > > Mark > The Liberator > E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: ; > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM > Subject: Jock itch > > > God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he >loves > them he keeps them humble. > > I know God is not a raider fan. > > If you wash more your jock itch will go away. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often >pray > >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't >stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying >jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages >I > >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. >Are > >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when >the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the >Origin of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous >and > > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they >are > > >again. > > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you >are > > >simply > > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.4]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:58:33 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f120.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.120]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:58:01 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 06:58:00 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:58:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:58:00 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 13:58:00.0676 (UTC) FILETIME=[445C8A40:01C0338B] ################################################ Subj: I hope for but won't expect an answer to this question Date: 11-Oct-00 06:59:40 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Science question: how did life originate? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:59:33 -0500 > >Bill Bequette, you wrote: > >"I have to agree with Bill. My hat is off to you guys! Watching >embittered >skeptics get nasty with me and my fellow brethren is great. It confirms >everything the Bible says about atheists. Right on guys! Thanks for >confirming my faith :) John 3:16" > >Yet you are skeptical of science... Did you ever think that your own words >describe you quite well? > >BTW, who ssaid I was an atheist? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:10 PM >Subject: We know for whom the Bell tolls > > >Lets look at theings. > >The Book of Galatians (5:22)says the fruit of the Spirit is: >love, >joy, >peace, >patience, >kindness, >goodness, >faithfulness, >gentleness and >self control. > >The deeds of the flesh include >emnitiy, >strife, >angry, >dissention, >factions and >envying. > >I have been around a long time and have met a lot of people. There are >always exceptions, but over all there is no doubt this verse is true. Show >me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person. >Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness. > >Greg Laurie said once: even if Christianity were not true (and all four of >us know it is true), it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial. > >Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote >about 2000 years ago! Amen! > >Agape, >Bill > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Chicken little was right! > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:38:28 -0500 > > > >Bill, the Bible is planted in truth? > > > >Ha.. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: ; > >Cc: > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:31 PM > >Subject: Chicken little was right! > > > > > >Unhappiness.....that is the fruit that falls from a tree planted in lies > >and > >blooming toward hopelessness. > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:12:18 -0700 > > > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > An impartial judge has ruled: > > > Bill 10 > > > Liberal 0 > > > > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a > > > >ship in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build >a > > >such > > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity >I > > > >thought > > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > > > > >CC: > > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a > > > >ship > > > > >in the first place? > > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed >out > > >that > > > >if > > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and > > >spend so > > > > >much > > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I > >told > > >you > > > > >that > > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find > >it > > > >quite > > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so > > >long. > > > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess >it's > > > >easier > > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to >get > >a > > >few > > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > > > >Mark > > > > >The Liberator > > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile > >at > > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (rly-yd01.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.1]) by air-yd02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:59:40 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f85.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.85]) by rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.14) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:59:01 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 06:59:00 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:58:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: I hope for but won't expect an answer to this question Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:58:59 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 13:59:00.0162 (UTC) FILETIME=[67D16220:01C0338B] ################################################ Subj: first stop avoiding my question Date: 11-Oct-00 07:00:47 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com How did life originate...gee whiz when will you answer that. It is a simple science question. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:02:52 -0500 > >Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or >nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Bequette > To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a ship in the first place? > > > Totally False. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark > To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such a ship in the first place? > > > The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- >some > which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You >give > the manmade Bible too much credit. > > Mark > The Liberator > E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: ; > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such a > ship in the first place? > > > The answer is in the Bible Mark! > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > > > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden >beam? > > > >= ) > > > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such a > >ship in the first place? > > > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such a > >ship in the first place? > > > > > >An impartial judge has ruled: > >Bill 10 > >Liberal 0 > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build >a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity >I > > >thought > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such a > > >ship > > > >in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed >out > >that > > >if > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and >spend > >so > > > >much > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I >told > >you > > > >that > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find >it > > >quite > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so >long. > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess >it's > > >easier > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to >get a > >few > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > >Mark > > > >The Liberator > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile >at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:00:46 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f137.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.137]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:00:01 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 06:59:54 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:59:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: first stop avoiding my question Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:59:54 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 13:59:54.0697 (UTC) FILETIME=[8852C390:01C0338B] ################################################ Subj: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: 11-Oct-00 07:04:08 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: billbeq@mediaone.net, editor@liberator.net CC: DWise1@aol.com It is Bill, lets see what they say >From: "Bill Bequette" >To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" >CC: >Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:02:26 -0700 > >"common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to >me.... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark > To: Bill Morgan > Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM > Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' > > > The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of > mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two >related > individuals. Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the > likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due >to > incestuous relations. The child is less likely to be a simple carrier >of > the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. > > Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science >topics. > It's no wonder why you reject science. It's because you don't >understand > it. > > Mark > The Liberator > E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: > Cc: ; > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM > Subject: Cain's wife > > > The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of >mutations. > You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher > risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the >physical > inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. > > Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 >years > ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you >agree > with that? > > Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest >wrong? > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" > >CC: , > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. > >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb04.mx.aol.com (rly-zb04.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.4]) by air-zb04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:04:07 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f42.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.42]) by rly-zb04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:03:36 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 07:03:27 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:03:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: billbeq@mediaone.net, editor@liberator.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:03:26 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 14:03:27.0051 (UTC) FILETIME=[06E569B0:01C0338C] ################################################ Subj: Paraphrase? Date: 11-Oct-00 07:42:15 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com I wish you could paraphrase. That is a sincere request. Or paste the best section of it. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:05:46 -0500 > >Bill, if you read any of it, you would be able to site examples. Did you >read the article about Rev. Spong at the following address? > >http://liberator.net/articles/LiberatorMark/Spong.html > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM >Subject: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo > > >Bill have you read the stuff at his web site? I have. I disagree with it >but I read a lot of it. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:25 PM >Subject: Re: From goo to you by way of the zoo > > >Bill, notice how my web addresses have been completely ignored? Here it is >again: www.liberator.net/ulc/ > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:30 PM >Subject: From goo to you by way of the zoo > > >Notice how they avoid your simple origin of life question Bill? > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:09:05 -0500 > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's your > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. >It's > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. BTW, > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on burying > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't > >handle > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you plan >on > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the Sabbath > >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange >character > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a > >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other > >atheists. God Bless you! > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often >pray > >for > > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. >Are > >you > > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Bill Bequette > > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when >the > > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Bill Morgan > > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin > >of > > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > > > > >>From: "Mark" > > >>To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >>CC: > > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > >> > > >>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are > >acceptable? > > >>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > >> > > >>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > > >>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > >> > > >>= ) > > >> > > >>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > > >>again. > > >>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > > >>simply > > >>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > >> > > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > >>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > >>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > >> > > >>Mark > > >>The Liberator > > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > >> > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.2]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.14) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:42:14 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f63.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.63]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:41:28 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 07:41:26 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:41:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: Paraphrase? Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:41:26 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 14:41:26.0884 (UTC) FILETIME=[55C85240:01C03391] ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 11-Oct-00 07:44:13 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@AOL.com Of course god creaed a perfect genetic code. I am really excited to hear what you say regarding why biologically you should not marry a sister. Mark: do you know what an allele is? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:30:35 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over >time, >thus back then there were few if any." > >What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an >inherited genetic trait. > >"God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" > >There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create >such a thing? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > > > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light >of > >defects caused by incestuous relations? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > >Mark, > >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth > >defects. That is God's answer. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Morgan > >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > > > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. > >But > > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of > >science? > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc04.mx.aol.com (rly-zc04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.4]) by air-zc05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:44:13 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f268.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.46]) by rly-zc04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:43:26 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 07:43:18 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:43:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:43:18 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 14:43:18.0126 (UTC) FILETIME=[981680E0:01C03391] ################################################ Subj: Word games; but Mark is correct Date: 11-Oct-00 07:48:44 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, this is priceless education for you so rejoice in it. Let me tell you what atheists do, they live by intimidationand word games, not empirical science. Here is a classic example. A few minutes ago Mark said there is no such thing a perfect genetic code. Did he provide evidence? Of course nto, I am not picking on him, but he does not know the difference between an allele and a mutation. but Mark is benefitting from talking to us, because from this chat, he is learning biology and what alleles are. Hey, we all have a lot to learn about a lot of things. I learn all the time from atheists. None of us should shut our ears to what those who oppose us say. You see what happened here is Mark took the high ground by disecting the word "prove" and Mrk is correct, science can not "prove" anything, but science can provide the best explanation to things. Hey, Mark, what is your best explanation for the origin of life? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:34:41 -0500 > >Bill, if you knew anything about science -- which you clearly do not -- you >would know that science does not prove something. Science only suggests >something to be true from current information thru theory. If new >information should be found to discredit known information, then said >theory >would not be acceptable. This is the strength behind science. Unlike >religious axioms, which are inflexible or take many generations to change, >science changes as better information is received. > >= ) > >Bill, you are a comedy routine. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:06 PM >Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls > > >Oh no I am not skeptical of science. Science proves God exists. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:59 PM >Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls > > >Bill Bequette, you wrote: > >"I have to agree with Bill. My hat is off to you guys! Watching >embittered >skeptics get nasty with me and my fellow brethren is great. It confirms >everything the Bible says about atheists. Right on guys! Thanks for >confirming my faith :) John 3:16" > >Yet you are skeptical of science... Did you ever think that your own words >describe you quite well? > >BTW, who ssaid I was an atheist? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:10 PM >Subject: We know for whom the Bell tolls > > >Lets look at theings. > >The Book of Galatians (5:22)says the fruit of the Spirit is: >love, >joy, >peace, >patience, >kindness, >goodness, >faithfulness, >gentleness and >self control. > >The deeds of the flesh include >emnitiy, >strife, >angry, >dissention, >factions and >envying. > >I have been around a long time and have met a lot of people. There are >always exceptions, but over all there is no doubt this verse is true. Show >me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person. >Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness. > >Greg Laurie said once: even if Christianity were not true (and all four of >us know it is true), it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial. > >Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote >about 2000 years ago! Amen! > >Agape, >Bill > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Chicken little was right! > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:38:28 -0500 > > > >Bill, the Bible is planted in truth? > > > >Ha.. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: ; > >Cc: > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:31 PM > >Subject: Chicken little was right! > > > > > >Unhappiness.....that is the fruit that falls from a tree planted in lies > >and > >blooming toward hopelessness. > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:12:18 -0700 > > > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > An impartial judge has ruled: > > > Bill 10 > > > Liberal 0 > > > > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a > > > >ship in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build >a > > >such > > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity >I > > > >thought > > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > > > > >CC: > > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a > > > >ship > > > > >in the first place? > > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed >out > > >that > > > >if > > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and > > >spend so > > > > >much > > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I > >told > > >you > > > > >that > > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find > >it > > > >quite > > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so > > >long. > > > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess >it's > > > >easier > > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to >get > >a > > >few > > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > > > >Mark > > > > >The Liberator > > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile > >at > > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (rly-zc05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.5]) by air-zc01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:48:44 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f91.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.91]) by rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:48:09 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 07:48:01 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:48:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: Word games; but Mark is correct Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:48:00 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 14:48:01.0060 (UTC) FILETIME=[40BACE40:01C03392] ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 11-Oct-00 07:51:39 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill: here is another example of a common atheistic ploy...the ad hominem attack, or argumentum ad hominem. A personal attack against me. You see they have to use this tactic since Mark really is scared to go deep into Biology or Physics with me. I understand your fears Mark and will never personally attack you for that. Mark, again, when will you explain to me how you think life origianted? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Jock itch >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:36:36 -0500 > >Bill, to follow your belief that God created the Universe and consequently >my brain came to be, it would be immoral for me not to use it. I would be >breaking God's law by not using it! > >= ) > >You should try it sometime and please your God. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:05 PM >Subject: Re: Jock itch > > >Your lucky God gave you the chance to feel sorry. Someday God will be >judging you. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:01 PM >Subject: Re: Jock itch > > >Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance >to a Christian God than kids with Cancer. > >That's sad. I feel sorry for you and the God you worship. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM >Subject: Re: Jock itch > > >If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM >Subject: Re: Jock itch > > >I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more >important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty >God. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM >Subject: Jock itch > > >God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves >them he keeps them humble. > >I know God is not a raider fan. > >If you wash more your jock itch will go away. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > > >again. > > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > > >simply > > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd04.mx.aol.com (rly-yd04.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.4]) by air-yd03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:51:38 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f132.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.132]) by rly-yd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:51:08 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 07:50:59 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:50:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:50:59 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 14:50:59.0665 (UTC) FILETIME=[AB2FC410:01C03392] ################################################ Subj: Lesson # 33 Bill Beq You must read this one! Date: 11-Oct-00 08:06:53 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com See the ad hominem? Here is todays lesson. Atheists argue that it is science to beleive the first life came from a primordial soup. Now, not all atheists say the first life was from this soup, some say pyrite, outer space, deep ocean vents, on the edge of a pond etc. All theories proposed by the atheists and I will teach you why! 1) Proteins are essential to life, all living organisms have them and need them. 2) Proteins are chains of amino acids. 3) Amino acids are simple compounds found in all living organisms. 4) People have 20 different amino acids in them. 5) The sequence of the amino acids is crucial to the function of the protein. 6) When the amino acids bond, they form what are called peptide bonds. 7) If peptide bonds do not form, you will not have a protein, just a bunch of lonely amino acids. 8) re read 7 it is crucial. 9) Now the atheist has to explain where life originated, much less how. 10) Where did life not originate? 10a) Water....the law of mass action teached water breaks up peptide bonds, they will not form in water, water breaks them up. 10b) So enlightened atheists say life originated outside of the water. Guess what? Oxygen breaks up peptide bonds. 10c) Now the atheist says there was no oxygen when life forst arose. Problem, that means no ozone layer and Ultraviolet radiation breaks ups peptide bonds. 11) Check mate? Sceicne can not prove that life did not arise by natural processes, but sciece shows (and correct me if I am wrong Mrk/Dave) it requires blind faith to be an atheist just based ont he origin of life question alone. It takes less faith to conclude life did not arise spontaneously by natural means. mark/Dave again, give me science reasons of how and where you think life originated. yours in Biology and Chemistry, Bill Morgan >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:38:36 -0500 > >Bill, if you show me a scientific theory that states babies came from mud, >I'll show you an invalid theory. Instead, your oversimplification of a >known scientific theory is in error -- not the theory itself. > >If you learn more about science, you will appreciate it. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:04 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >Babies. Children are proof of all the Bible's glorious wonders. Babies >did >not evolve from mud. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:02 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or >nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >Totally False. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- some >which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You give >the manmade Bible too much credit. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? > > >The answer is in the Bible Mark! > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > > > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden beam? > > > >= ) > > > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > > > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a > >ship in the first place? > > > > > >An impartial judge has ruled: > >Bill 10 > >Liberal 0 > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity I > > >thought > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a > > >ship > > > >in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed out > >that > > >if > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and >spend > >so > > > >much > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I told > >you > > > >that > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find it > > >quite > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so >long. > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess it's > > >easier > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to get a > >few > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > >Mark > > > >The Liberator > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.5]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.14) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:06:53 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f155.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.155]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:06:07 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:05:56 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:05:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: Lesson # 33 Bill Beq You must read this one! Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:05:55 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 15:05:56.0152 (UTC) FILETIME=[C188D380:01C03394] ################################################ Subj: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: 11-Oct-00 13:26:53 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Mark: you don't know an allele from an electric eel do you? Humble yourself for once and admit you don't know that much about Biology. We can learn from each other, really, now look up allele in your Biology book. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:41:50 -0500 > >A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy >or some force external to the body. A negative genetic characteristic is >one brought on by poor genetic pairing. > >SHeeesh.... > >Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. > >= ) > >The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. >Sheeesh..... What are you some hick with one front tooth? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM >Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' > > >"common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to >me.... >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM >Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' > > >The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of >mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related >individuals. Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the >likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to >incestuous relations. The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of >the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. > >Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. >It's no wonder why you reject science. It's because you don't understand >it. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: >Cc: ; >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM >Subject: Cain's wife > > >The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of >mutations. >You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher >risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical >inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. > >Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years >ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree >with that? > >Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" > >CC: , > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. > >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb05.mx.aol.com (rly-zb05.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.5]) by air-zb02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:26:53 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f289.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.83]) by rly-zb05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:26:33 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:26:32 -0700 Received: from 164.45.101.11 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:26:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [164.45.101.11] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:26:32 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 20:26:32.0580 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B56CC40:01C033C1] ################################################ Subj: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: 11-Oct-00 13:37:32 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), editor@liberator.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Come on Mark... you can do it! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:26 PM Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Mark: you don't know an allele from an electric eel do you? Humble yourself for once and admit you don't know that much about Biology. We can learn from each other, really, now look up allele in your Biology book. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:41:50 -0500 > >A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy >or some force external to the body. A negative genetic characteristic is >one brought on by poor genetic pairing. > >SHeeesh.... > >Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. > >= ) > >The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. >Sheeesh..... What are you some hick with one front tooth? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM >Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' > > >"common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to >me.... >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM >Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' > > >The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of >mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related >individuals. Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the >likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to >incestuous relations. The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of >the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. > >Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. >It's no wonder why you reject science. It's because you don't understand >it. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: >Cc: ; >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM >Subject: Cain's wife > > >The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of >mutations. >You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher >risk of making a handicapped child. this is demonstrated with the physical >inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. > >Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years >ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree >with that? > >Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" > >CC: , > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. > >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Come on Mark... you can do it! :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Morgan
To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic'
Mark:  you don't know an allele from an electric eel do you?  Humble yourself for once and admit you don't know that much about Biology.  We can learn from each other, really, now look up allele in your Biology book. >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:41:50 -0500 > >A mutation is a change that occurs due to a chemical or radioactive energy >or some force external to the body.  A negative genetic characteristic is >one brought on by poor genetic pairing. > >SHeeesh.... > >Pick up a biology book 'for God's sake'. > >= ) > >The next thing you are going to say is that we came from monkeys. >Sheeesh.....  What are you some hick with one front tooth? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:02 PM >Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' > > >"common negative genetic characteristics" sounds like genetic mutations to >me.... >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:37 PM >Subject: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' > > >The birth defects caused by incestuous relations are not a result of >mutations but of common negative genetic characteristics from two related >individuals.  Families who carry negative genetic traits magnify the >likelihood of carrying on that trait with the offspring they create due to >incestuous relations.  The child is less likely to be a simple carrier of >the negative trait than it will be affected by the negative trait. > >Bill, you need to take sciences courses before you discuss science topics. >It's no wonder why you reject science.  It's because you don't understand >it. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> >To: <editor@liberator.net> >Cc: <billbeq@mediaone.net>; <DWise1@aol.com> >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:24 PM >Subject: Cain's wife > > >The increased probability of birth defects is due to tpresence of >mutations. >You andyour sister most likely have the same mutations and thus a higher >risk of making a handicapped child.  this is demonstrated with the physical >inferiority of pure bread dogs who often are in bred. > >Mutation increase over time, 6000 years ago was a long time ago, 6000 years >ago people had fewer mutations in their genetic code.....Mark, do you agree >with that? > >Mark, if people had fewer mutations in their genetic code, is incest wrong? > > > >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >CC: <billbeq@mediaone.net>, <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:42:39 -0500 > > > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. > >But > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of >science? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh03.mx.aol.com (rly-yh03.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.35]) by air-yh02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:37:32 -0400 Received: from lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (lsmls02.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.15]) by rly-yh03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:37:01 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust151.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.151]) by lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA07673; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002001c033c2$99f64720$9720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Bill can't tell a 'mutation' from a 'characteristic' Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:34:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C03387.EC262BE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Amino Acids Date: 11-Oct-00 14:05:12 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com "Sceicne can not prove that life did not arise by natural processes, but sciece shows (and correct me if I am wrong Mrk/Dave) it requires blind faith to be an atheist just based ont he origin of life question alone. It takes less faith to conclude life did not arise spontaneously by natural means." I keep telling you that science doesn't prove something to be true. Scientific reasoning is used to gather evidence to substantiate a theory. If new infromation can attack a theory beyond repair, new theories are formed to account for the new information. You argue as if it is either one or the other. Did you ever think that the Universe, which is God by my definition, is self-aware and spontaneously created itself in a timeless rythm of ebb and flow? It's just as likely as the simplistic Christian God theory you chant. I'll allow Dave to field this question. I'm not a molecular biologist but I would bet a hefty sum that you followed an error in thinking when you referred to protein molecules. = ) You have mis-stated infromation in the past. I fully expect you to mark this up as an imaginary gain but it would be like bringing a thimble of water to the Grand Canyon in order to fill it. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ulc/ ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc03.mx.aol.com (rly-zc03.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.3]) by air-zc04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:05:12 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zc03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:04:49 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA64526; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:04:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <001401c033c7$21197980$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Amino Acids Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:06:28 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 11-Oct-00 14:07:06 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com You started to dive into metaphysics and I just happened to clobber you with it. Don't blame me for your loss. = ) Physics is more my bag. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:50 AM Subject: Re: Jock itch Bill: here is another example of a common atheistic ploy...the ad hominem attack, or argumentum ad hominem. A personal attack against me. You see they have to use this tactic since Mark really is scared to go deep into Biology or Physics with me. I understand your fears Mark and will never personally attack you for that. Mark, again, when will you explain to me how you think life origianted? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Jock itch >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:36:36 -0500 > >Bill, to follow your belief that God created the Universe and consequently >my brain came to be, it would be immoral for me not to use it. I would be >breaking God's law by not using it! > >= ) > >You should try it sometime and please your God. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:05 PM >Subject: Re: Jock itch > > >Your lucky God gave you the chance to feel sorry. Someday God will be >judging you. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:01 PM >Subject: Re: Jock itch > > >Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance >to a Christian God than kids with Cancer. > >That's sad. I feel sorry for you and the God you worship. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM >Subject: Re: Jock itch > > >If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM >Subject: Re: Jock itch > > >I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be more >important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a petty >God. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM >Subject: Jock itch > > >God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he loves >them he keeps them humble. > >I know God is not a raider fan. > >If you wash more your jock itch will go away. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often pray > >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. Are > >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin >of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > > >again. > > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > > >simply > > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (rly-yd01.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.1]) by air-yd04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:07:06 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.14) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:06:26 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA64756; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:05:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <001901c033c7$4d31ed40$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:07:44 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 11-Oct-00 14:08:41 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@AOL.com Bill, substantiate your claim that God provided the 'perfect' code. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:43 AM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Of course god creaed a perfect genetic code. I am really excited to hear what you say regarding why biologically you should not marry a sister. Mark: do you know what an allele is? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:30:35 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over >time, >thus back then there were few if any." > >What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an >inherited genetic trait. > >"God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" > >There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create >such a thing? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > > > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light >of > >defects caused by incestuous relations? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > >Mark, > >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth > >defects. That is God's answer. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Morgan > >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > > > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. > >But > > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of > >science? > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:09:52 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Word games; but Mark is correct Date: 11-Oct-00 14:08:44 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, of course I'm right. = ) How could you have thought otherwise? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:48 AM Subject: Word games; but Mark is correct Bill, this is priceless education for you so rejoice in it. Let me tell you what atheists do, they live by intimidationand word games, not empirical science. Here is a classic example. A few minutes ago Mark said there is no such thing a perfect genetic code. Did he provide evidence? Of course nto, I am not picking on him, but he does not know the difference between an allele and a mutation. but Mark is benefitting from talking to us, because from this chat, he is learning biology and what alleles are. Hey, we all have a lot to learn about a lot of things. I learn all the time from atheists. None of us should shut our ears to what those who oppose us say. You see what happened here is Mark took the high ground by disecting the word "prove" and Mrk is correct, science can not "prove" anything, but science can provide the best explanation to things. Hey, Mark, what is your best explanation for the origin of life? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:34:41 -0500 > >Bill, if you knew anything about science -- which you clearly do not -- you >would know that science does not prove something. Science only suggests >something to be true from current information thru theory. If new >information should be found to discredit known information, then said >theory >would not be acceptable. This is the strength behind science. Unlike >religious axioms, which are inflexible or take many generations to change, >science changes as better information is received. > >= ) > >Bill, you are a comedy routine. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:06 PM >Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls > > >Oh no I am not skeptical of science. Science proves God exists. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:59 PM >Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls > > >Bill Bequette, you wrote: > >"I have to agree with Bill. My hat is off to you guys! Watching >embittered >skeptics get nasty with me and my fellow brethren is great. It confirms >everything the Bible says about atheists. Right on guys! Thanks for >confirming my faith :) John 3:16" > >Yet you are skeptical of science... Did you ever think that your own words >describe you quite well? > >BTW, who ssaid I was an atheist? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:10 PM >Subject: We know for whom the Bell tolls > > >Lets look at theings. > >The Book of Galatians (5:22)says the fruit of the Spirit is: >love, >joy, >peace, >patience, >kindness, >goodness, >faithfulness, >gentleness and >self control. > >The deeds of the flesh include >emnitiy, >strife, >angry, >dissention, >factions and >envying. > >I have been around a long time and have met a lot of people. There are >always exceptions, but over all there is no doubt this verse is true. Show >me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person. >Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness. > >Greg Laurie said once: even if Christianity were not true (and all four of >us know it is true), it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial. > >Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote >about 2000 years ago! Amen! > >Agape, >Bill > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Chicken little was right! > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:38:28 -0500 > > > >Bill, the Bible is planted in truth? > > > >Ha.. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: ; > >Cc: > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:31 PM > >Subject: Chicken little was right! > > > > > >Unhappiness.....that is the fruit that falls from a tree planted in lies > >and > >blooming toward hopelessness. > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:12:18 -0700 > > > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > An impartial judge has ruled: > > > Bill 10 > > > Liberal 0 > > > > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a > > > >ship in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build >a > > >such > > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity >I > > > >thought > > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > > > > >CC: > > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a > > > >ship > > > > >in the first place? > > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed >out > > >that > > > >if > > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and > > >spend so > > > > >much > > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I > >told > > >you > > > > >that > > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find > >it > > > >quite > > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so > > >long. > > > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess >it's > > > >easier > > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to >get > >a > > >few > > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > > > >Mark > > > > >The Liberator > > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile > >at > > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc01.mx.aol.com (rly-zc01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.1]) by air-zc03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:08:42 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-zc01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:07:44 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA64875; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:07:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <001e01c033c7$7e460380$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Word games; but Mark is correct Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:09:06 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Amino Acids Date: 11-Oct-00 14:08:44 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com I believe you meant Science not "Sceicne". Try using a spell checker. = ) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:06 PM Subject: Amino Acids "Sceicne can not prove that life did not arise by natural processes, but sciece shows (and correct me if I am wrong Mrk/Dave) it requires blind faith to be an atheist just based ont he origin of life question alone. It takes less faith to conclude life did not arise spontaneously by natural means." I keep telling you that science doesn't prove something to be true. Scientific reasoning is used to gather evidence to substantiate a theory. If new infromation can attack a theory beyond repair, new theories are formed to account for the new information. You argue as if it is either one or the other. Did you ever think that the Universe, which is God by my definition, is self-aware and spontaneously created itself in a timeless rythm of ebb and flow? It's just as likely as the simplistic Christian God theory you chant. I'll allow Dave to field this question. I'm not a molecular biologist but I would bet a hefty sum that you followed an error in thinking when you referred to protein molecules. = ) You have mis-stated infromation in the past. I fully expect you to mark this up as an imaginary gain but it would be like bringing a thimble of water to the Grand Canyon in order to fill it. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ulc/ --------------------
I believe you meant Science not "Sceicne".  Try using a spell checker.
 
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:06 PM
Subject: Amino Acids
"Sceicne can not prove that life did not arise by natural processes, but sciece shows (and correct me if I am wrong Mrk/Dave) it requires blind faith to be an atheist just based ont he origin of life question alone.  It takes less faith to conclude life did not arise spontaneously by natural means." I keep telling you that science doesn't prove something to be true. Scientific reasoning is used to gather evidence to substantiate a theory. If new infromation can attack a theory beyond repair, new theories are formed to account for the new information. You argue as if it is either one or the other.  Did you ever think that the Universe, which is God by my definition, is self-aware and spontaneously created itself in a timeless rythm of ebb and flow?  It's just as likely as the simplistic Christian God theory you chant. I'll allow Dave to field this question.  I'm not a molecular biologist but I would bet a hefty sum that you followed an error in thinking when you referred to protein molecules. = ) You have mis-stated infromation in the past. I fully expect you to mark this up as an imaginary gain but it would be like bringing a thimble of water to the Grand Canyon in order to fill it. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ulc/
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (rly-yc01.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.33]) by air-yc05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:08:43 -0400 Received: from lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (lsmls02.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.15]) by rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:08:04 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust151.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.151]) by lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA27449; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002b01c033c6$ed53b0c0$9720113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <001401c033c7$21197980$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Amino Acids Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:05:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C0338C.3FF17280" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: first stop avoiding my question Date: 11-Oct-00 14:09:31 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, where did God come from? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:59 AM Subject: first stop avoiding my question How did life originate...gee whiz when will you answer that. It is a simple science question. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such a >ship in the first place? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:02:52 -0500 > >Bill, what evidence do you have of Noah's Ark, Moses parting the sea or >nearly any other fantastical story in the Bible? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Bequette > To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:46 PM > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a ship in the first place? > > > Totally False. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark > To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:28 PM > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such a ship in the first place? > > > The only things in the Bible are certain historical information -- >some > which may be truthful -- and the rest borrowed from other myths. You >give > the manmade Bible too much credit. > > Mark > The Liberator > E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: ; > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:26 PM > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such a > ship in the first place? > > > The answer is in the Bible Mark! > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such a > >ship in the first place? > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:44:19 -0500 > > > >How happy was your 'savior' when he was being nailed to a wooden >beam? > > > >= ) > > > >That's got a sting to the point of upsetting one's day. > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:12 PM > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such a > >ship in the first place? > > > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such a > >ship in the first place? > > > > > >An impartial judge has ruled: > >Bill 10 > >Liberal 0 > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build >a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity >I > > >thought > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a >such a > > >ship > > > >in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed >out > >that > > >if > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and >spend > >so > > > >much > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I >told > >you > > > >that > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find >it > > >quite > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so >long. > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess >it's > > >easier > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to >get a > >few > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > >Mark > > > >The Liberator > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile >at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.3]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:09:31 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:08:57 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA65168; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:08:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <002c01c033c7$b33e7fe0$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: first stop avoiding my question Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:10:35 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 11-Oct-00 14:09:40 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Read the Bible. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:09 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill, substantiate your claim that God provided the 'perfect' code. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:43 AM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Of course god creaed a perfect genetic code. I am really excited to hear what you say regarding why biologically you should not marry a sister. Mark: do you know what an allele is? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:30:35 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over >time, >thus back then there were few if any." > >What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an >inherited genetic trait. > >"God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" > >There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create >such a thing? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > > > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light >of > >defects caused by incestuous relations? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > >Mark, > >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth > >defects. That is God's answer. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Morgan > >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > > > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. > >But > > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of > >science? > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Read the Bible.
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From: Mark
To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net
Cc: DWise1@AOL.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet?
Bill, substantiate your claim that God provided the 'perfect' code. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@AOL.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:43 AM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Of course god creaed a perfect genetic code. I am really excited to hear what you say regarding why biologically you should not marry a sister. Mark: do you know what an allele is? >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> >CC: <DWise1@AOL.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:30:35 -0500 > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >"I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over >time, >thus back then there were few if any." > >What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an >inherited genetic trait. > >"God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" > >There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create >such a thing? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" > ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > > > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light >of > >defects caused by incestuous relations? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > >Mark, > >You answered your own question.  Incestuous relationships result in birth > >defects.  That is God's answer. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> > >To: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net <billbeq@mediaone.net>; DWise1@aol.com > ><DWise1@aol.com> > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > > > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. > >But > > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of > >science? > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:06:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C0338C.6B49A380" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: I hope for but won't expect an answer to this question Date: 11-Oct-00 14:09:50 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, where did God come from? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:58 AM Subject: I hope for but won't expect an answer to this question Science question: how did life originate? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: We know for whom the Bell tolls >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:59:33 -0500 > >Bill Bequette, you wrote: > >"I have to agree with Bill. My hat is off to you guys! Watching >embittered >skeptics get nasty with me and my fellow brethren is great. It confirms >everything the Bible says about atheists. Right on guys! Thanks for >confirming my faith :) John 3:16" > >Yet you are skeptical of science... Did you ever think that your own words >describe you quite well? > >BTW, who ssaid I was an atheist? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:10 PM >Subject: We know for whom the Bell tolls > > >Lets look at theings. > >The Book of Galatians (5:22)says the fruit of the Spirit is: >love, >joy, >peace, >patience, >kindness, >goodness, >faithfulness, >gentleness and >self control. > >The deeds of the flesh include >emnitiy, >strife, >angry, >dissention, >factions and >envying. > >I have been around a long time and have met a lot of people. There are >always exceptions, but over all there is no doubt this verse is true. Show >me a full on skeptic, and I will typically show you an angry bitter person. >Show me a beleiver and I will show you gentleness. > >Greg Laurie said once: even if Christianity were not true (and all four of >us know it is true), it is a life he would trade for one founded on denial. > >Mark, Dave, you caustic e mails are fulfilling prophecies our Bible wrote >about 2000 years ago! Amen! > >Agape, >Bill > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Chicken little was right! > >Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:38:28 -0500 > > > >Bill, the Bible is planted in truth? > > > >Ha.. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: ; > >Cc: > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:31 PM > >Subject: Chicken little was right! > > > > > >Unhappiness.....that is the fruit that falls from a tree planted in lies > >and > >blooming toward hopelessness. > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a such >a > > >ship in the first place? > > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:12:18 -0700 > > > > > >It truly seems to me that atheists are very unhappy people! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > To: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:10 PM > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > An impartial judge has ruled: > > > Bill 10 > > > Liberal 0 > > > > > > > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a > > > >ship in the first place? > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:12:12 -0700 > > > > > > > >10 points to Bill > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Bill Morgan > > > > To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > > > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 3:01 PM > > > > Subject: Re: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build >a > > >such > > > >a ship in the first place? > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark, I apologized. Based upon your obcession with Christianity >I > > > >thought > > > > you believed it was true just unappealling. > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > > > > >CC: > > > > >Subject: How could Noah have filled the Ark, much less build a > >such > > >a > > > >ship > > > > >in the first place? > > > > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:44 -0500 > > > > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > > > > > >"Mark: why did you ignore my e mail which truthfully pointed >out > > >that > > > >if > > > > >Jesus was a fake why would you hate something that is fake and > > >spend so > > > > >much > > > > >time angry about it?" > > > > > > > > > >Bill, I didn't ignore it. You must have missed the letter. I > >told > > >you > > > > >that > > > > >I cannot get upset over a mythical concoction. In fact, I find > >it > > > >quite > > > > >humorous that the joke called Christianity could have lasted so > > >long. > > > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > > > >Some people like to believe in fantastical stories. I guess >it's > > > >easier > > > > >than believing reality. That's their call. It's my right to >get > >a > > >few > > > > >chuckles out of it. > > > > > > > > > >Mark > > > > >The Liberator > > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile > >at > > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (rly-yh02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.34]) by air-yh02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:09:50 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:09:14 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA65222; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:09:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <003101c033c7$c0800de0$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: I hope for but won't expect an answer to this question Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:10:57 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jock itch Date: 11-Oct-00 14:10:41 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, how can you laugh about kids with cancer? You are a typical cold-hearted Christian. I feel sorry for you. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:58 AM Subject: Re: Jock itch I told you that Buffalo Bills games are more important than kids with cancer. Do not misquote me. I know you are wise enough to recognize sarcasm. >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Jock itch >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:01:03 -0500 > >Bill, it was you who claimed that football games are of greater importance >to a Christian God than kids with Cancer. > >That's sad. I feel sorry for you and the God you worship. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Bequette > To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: Jock itch > > > If you understand God you wouldn't define things in that way. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark > To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net > Cc: DWise1@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: Jock itch > > > I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be >more > important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a >petty > God. > > Mark > The Liberator > E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Morgan > To: ; > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM > Subject: Jock itch > > > God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he >loves > them he keeps them humble. > > I know God is not a raider fan. > > If you wash more your jock itch will go away. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often >pray > >for > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't >stop > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying >jock > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > >= ) > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages >I > >sent > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. >Are > >you > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when >the > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the >Origin of > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are >acceptable? > > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous >and > > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they >are > > >again. > > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you >are > > >simply > > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (rly-yg02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.2]) by air-yg03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:10:41 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:10:08 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA65477; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:10:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <003601c033c7$e0ae4640$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: Jock itch Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:11:51 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Jack Webb Date: 11-Oct-00 14:11:07 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net, DWise1@aol.com Bill, where did God come from? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; ; Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:54 AM Subject: Jack Webb I will someday honest. how did life originate? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , , > >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:38:52 -0500 > >Bill, I'm still waiting for you guys to respond to the articles/thoughts at >www.liberator.net/ulc/ . > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:19 PM >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > >Buddy, they are too chicken to answer your sincere inquiry. trust me! > > > >From: "Bill Bequette" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:38:40 -0700 > > > >Mr Wise what is your best explanation for the origin of life? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill Morgan > > To: DWise1@aol.com > > Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; editor@liberator.net > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:22 PM > > Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > > > > > You insulted my wife's faith in Christ and gave that as your reaosn >for > >not > > going to Denny's. > > > > mr Wise.....give me your best explanation for the origin of life. > > > > > > >From: DWise1@aol.com > > >To: > > >CC: , , > > >Subject: Re: Dr. Jessel and Mr. Hide > > >Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:30:14 EDT > > > > > > > > > >>I love the intellectual thrust and parry with those of different > > >opinions, I have no problem with that.....it is the greatest catalyst > > >toward futher research....being challenged....<< > > > > > >Since when, Bill M? Both Mark and I have observed you in action >since > > >1996. We have watched you do everything you can to avoid discussion, > > >including your favorite trick of laying down rabbit trails. > > > > > >But then we have not observed you with somebody who doesn't know what > >is > > >going on. I guess that would make a difference, because you only >want > >to > > >be "challenged" when you can tap-dance rings around the other guy. >But > > >bring in somebody who knows something about creation science and you > >duck > > >and run. > > > > > > >>I just have a hard time with incessant insults and whining from > >people > > >who will remain nameless.<< > > > > > >Well, Bill M, if you would stop obstructing the search for truth then > > >things would run a whole lot smoother. If only you weren't so afraid > >of > > >the truth. > > > > > >For the THIRTIETH TIME, Bill M, substantiate your accusations against > >me! > > >Tell us what you think I had said! > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Date: 11-Oct-00 14:11:41 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan), billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@aol.com Bill, where did God come from? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:48 AM Subject: I thot I thaw a puddy cat! Don't feel sorry fo rme until you answer my question: how did life originate? Notice Bill how they hate this question even more than a pussy cat hates water? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: Jock itch >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:36:27 -0500 > >Don't feel sorry for me, Billy. Feel sorry for your own flawed view of >God. >It's pathetic and it's childlike. > >= ) > >I feel sorry for you and those who you try and convince with your drivel. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 6:26 PM >Subject: Re: Jock itch > > >boo hoo >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mark >To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:21 PM >Subject: Re: Jock itch > > >So God -- your version it it anyway -- places kids with cancer second to >certain types of football games? Even in jest this is a sad comment >indeed. > >I feel sorry for you. > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: ; >Cc: >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:56 PM >Subject: Re: Jock itch > > >I NEVER said that! > >I said the buffalo Bills were more important than kids with cancer. not >all >football games are. Kids with cancer are more than Chrger games. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Jock itch > >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:26:44 -0500 > > > >I'm glad that you think your Christian God finds football games to be >more > >important than kids with cancer. It must be sad for you to worship a >petty > >God. > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Morgan > >To: ; > >Cc: > >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:28 PM > >Subject: Jock itch > > > > > >God definately answers the prayers of the buffalo bills and since he >loves > >them he keeps them humble. > > > >I know God is not a raider fan. > > > >If you wash more your jock itch will go away. > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > > > >CC: > > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:58:37 -0500 > > > > > >Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often >pray > > >for > > >help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > > >planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying jock > > >itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > >P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages I > > >sent > > >to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. >Are > > >you > > >admitting defeat so easily? > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Bill Bequette > > >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > > > > >Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when >the > > >Lord is on your side. So go easy. > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Bill Morgan > > >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > >Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > > > > > > >See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > > > > >I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the Origin > >of > > >Life Mist da Mark. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark" > > > >To: "Bill Morgan" , > > > >CC: > > > >Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > > > > > > >Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are > >acceptable? > > > >Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > > > > > > >If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > > > >consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > > > > > > >= ) > > > > > > > >BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > > > >again. > > > >Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > > > >simply > > > >too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > > > > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > > >http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > > >http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > > > > > > >Mark > > > >The Liberator > > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (rly-yh02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.34]) by air-yh02.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:11:41 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yh02.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:11:14 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA65641; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:11:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <004401c033c8$08007f60$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Morgan" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: I thot I thaw a puddy cat! Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:12:57 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Amino Acids Date: 11-Oct-00 14:14:06 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@aol.com Is that your 'best' reply? = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 4:05 PM Subject: Re: Amino Acids I believe you meant Science not "Sceicne". Try using a spell checker. = ) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:06 PM Subject: Amino Acids "Sceicne can not prove that life did not arise by natural processes, but sciece shows (and correct me if I am wrong Mrk/Dave) it requires blind faith to be an atheist just based ont he origin of life question alone. It takes less faith to conclude life did not arise spontaneously by natural means." I keep telling you that science doesn't prove something to be true. Scientific reasoning is used to gather evidence to substantiate a theory. If new infromation can attack a theory beyond repair, new theories are formed to account for the new information. You argue as if it is either one or the other. Did you ever think that the Universe, which is God by my definition, is self-aware and spontaneously created itself in a timeless rythm of ebb and flow? It's just as likely as the simplistic Christian God theory you chant. I'll allow Dave to field this question. I'm not a molecular biologist but I would bet a hefty sum that you followed an error in thinking when you referred to protein molecules. = ) You have mis-stated infromation in the past. I fully expect you to mark this up as an imaginary gain but it would be like bringing a thimble of water to the Grand Canyon in order to fill it. = ) Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ulc/ ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.5]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.14) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:14:06 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:13:37 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA65903; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:13:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <005501c033c8$5b067700$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <001401c033c7$21197980$052a03c7@liber8r> <002b01c033c6$ed53b0c0$9720113f@com> Subject: Re: Amino Acids Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:15:16 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 11-Oct-00 14:15:13 Pacific Daylight Time From: editor@liberator.net (Mark) To: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Give me some reasons to read that manmade text over any other. Why do you cling to the past? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Read the Bible. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:09 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill, substantiate your claim that God provided the 'perfect' code. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:43 AM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Of course god creaed a perfect genetic code. I am really excited to hear what you say regarding why biologically you should not marry a sister. Mark: do you know what an allele is? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:30:35 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over >time, >thus back then there were few if any." > >What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an >inherited genetic trait. > >"God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" > >There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create >such a thing? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > > > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light >of > >defects caused by incestuous relations? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > >Mark, > >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth > >defects. That is God's answer. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Morgan > >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > > > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. > >But > > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of > >science? > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (rly-yd03.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.3]) by air-yd03.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:15:13 -0400 Received: from uucphost.mcs.net (kitten2.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:14:39 -0400 Received: from liber8r (liber8r.pr.mcs.net [199.3.42.5]) by uucphost.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA65877; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:12:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from editor@liberator.net) Message-ID: <004f01c033c8$471f8e20$052a03c7@liber8r> From: "Mark" To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <002301c033c7$9a18d100$052a03c7@liber8r> <003e01c033c7$18be3140$9720113f@com> Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:14:43 -0500 Organization: n/a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ################################################ Subj: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: 11-Oct-00 15:00:00 Pacific Daylight Time From: billbeq@mediaone.net (Bill Bequette) To: editor@liberator.net (Mark), billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) CC: DWise1@AOL.com Because it encompasses the past, present and future better than just your present. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Give me some reasons to read that manmade text over any other. Why do you cling to the past? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Read the Bible. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:09 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill, substantiate your claim that God provided the 'perfect' code. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan To: ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:43 AM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Of course god creaed a perfect genetic code. I am really excited to hear what you say regarding why biologically you should not marry a sister. Mark: do you know what an allele is? >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Morgan" , >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:30:35 -0500 > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > >"I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over >time, >thus back then there were few if any." > >What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an >inherited genetic trait. > >"God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" > >There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create >such a thing? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > > > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light >of > >defects caused by incestuous relations? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > >Mark, > >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in birth > >defects. That is God's answer. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Morgan > >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > > > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. > >But > > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of > >science? > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Because it encompasses the past, present and future better than just your present.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan
Cc: DWise1@AOL.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet?
Give me some reasons to read that manmade text over any other. Why do you cling to the past? Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bequette To: Mark ; Bill Morgan Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Read the Bible. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:09 PM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Bill, substantiate your claim that God provided the 'perfect' code. Mark The Liberator E-Mail: editor@liberator.net Web Site: http://liberator.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> To: <editor@liberator.net>; <billbeq@mediaone.net> Cc: <DWise1@AOL.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:43 AM Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Of course god creaed a perfect genetic code. I am really excited to hear what you say regarding why biologically you should not marry a sister. Mark: do you know what an allele is? >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> >To: "Bill Morgan" <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, <billbeq@mediaone.net> >CC: <DWise1@AOL.com> >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:30:35 -0500 > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > >"I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over >time, >thus back then there were few if any." > >What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an >inherited genetic trait. > >"God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" > >There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create >such a thing? > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >From: "Mark" <editor@liberator.net> > >To: "Bill Bequette" <billbeq@mediaone.net>,        "Bill Morgan" > ><billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >CC: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > > > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in light >of > >defects caused by incestuous relations? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette <billbeq@mediaone.net> > >To: Mark <editor@liberator.net>; Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >Cc: <DWise1@aol.com> > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > >Mark, > >You answered your own question.  Incestuous relationships result in birth > >defects.  That is God's answer. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark <editor@liberator.net> > >To: Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com> > >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net <billbeq@mediaone.net>; DWise1@aol.com > ><DWise1@aol.com> > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > > >Bill Morgan <billyjack1@hotmail.com>, you wrote: > > > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth defects. > >But > > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of > >science? > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb04.mx.aol.com (rly-zb04.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.4]) by air-zb01.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:00:00 -0400 Received: from lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (lsmls02.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.15]) by rly-zb04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:59:17 -0400 Received: from gunsgalore (1Cust18.tnt1.huntington-beach2.ca.da.uu.net [63.17.32.18]) by lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA07406; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000d01c033ce$160b6920$1220113f@com> From: "Bill Bequette" To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" Cc: References: <002301c033c7$9a18d100$052a03c7@liber8r> <003e01c033c7$18be3140$9720113f@com> <004f01c033c8$471f8e20$052a03c7@liber8r> Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:56:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C03393.67C5CFC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ################################################ Subj: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: 11-Oct-00 20:04:04 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net CC: DWise1@AOL.com Carl Pagan is sorely missed! >From: "Mark" >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > >CC: >Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:43:21 -0500 > >Bill, Sagan is proof that you are wrong. > >= ) > >Mark >The Liberator >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Bequette >To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net >Cc: DWise1@AOL.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:39 PM >Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka > > >That's ok there are no aethists in foxholes. When old age and death >approach watch these guys become Christians fast!!! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Bill Morgan >To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net >Cc: DWise1@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:33 PM >Subject: I'm gonna get you sucka > > >Buddy, I don't think Mark is spening energy as much as he is venting his >anger and frustration. Something in his life did not work out as planned >(welcome to the club) and his method of dealing with it is to shake a fist >at God. > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:17:48 -0500 > > > >Bill, who said spending energy attacking Christianity wasn't positive? > >Hell, I think it's time well spent, not to mention entertaining. Once > >people see Christianity for what it really is -- a headlock/deathgrip on > >ignorance -- they'll be in a hurry to take a wider view and sample from >all > >the religions and philosophies that are available. > > > >Your inability and unwillingness to respond to the issues at > >www.liberator.net/ulc/ does not go without notice. > > > >= ) > > > >Thinking for the both of us, > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:13 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > >Mark, > >You would be a great Christian. With all the energy you spend talking > >about > >why Christianity is false instead if you could concentrate on something > >positive like donating time to the Boy Scouts or helping out old folks in > >convalescent homes. God Bless you, Bill > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:07 PM > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > > >Bill, if praying for me makes you feel better, then go for it. It's >your > > >right to spend your time praying to fictional characters and deities. > >It's > > >your right to drill a hole in your own head with a power drill too. >BTW, > > >the drill is slightly less painful than the praying. You keep on >burying > > >your head in the sand if it makes you feel better. Some people can't > >handle > > >the truth and often leave the big issues for others. > > > > > >Any thoughts on the articles at http://liberator.net/ulc/ or do you >plan > >on > > >ignoring those works like the other Bill? > > > > > >Oh yea, may a Roman never crucify you to make you a martyr and may your > > >fictitious God never have you stoned to death for working on the >Sabbath > > >[see Numbers 15:32-37]. The Christian God is one helluva strange > >character > > >indeed -- fickle to say the least! > > > > > >= ) > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Bill Bequette > > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > > >Cc: > > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:34 PM > > >Subject: Re: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > > > > >That's ok. I will stick with my belief system. I am proud to be a > > >Christian and always will be. I will pray for you and all the other > > >atheists. God Bless you! > > >Bill > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Mark > > >To: Bill Bequette ; Bill Morgan > > > > > >Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > >Date: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:56 AM > > >Subject: Does God Take Sides? > > > > > > > > >>Before football games and battles, participants on both sides often >pray > > >for > > >>help. I guess God takes sides on these petty issues but he can't stop > > >>planes from crashing, little kids from getting cancer and annoying >jock > > >>itch. Your belief system is quite amusing. > > >> > > >>= ) > > >> > > >>Mark > > >>The Liberator > > >>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > >> > > >>P.S. I noticed that you have no intelligent comment for the webpages >I > > >sent > > >>to you [see http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ for some of those pages]. >Are > > >you > > >>admitting defeat so easily? > > >> > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: Bill Bequette > > >>To: Bill Morgan ; editor@liberator.net > > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:29 PM > > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >> > > >> > > >>Bill remember the Lord helped you win. These guys have no hope when >the > > >>Lord is on your side. So go easy. > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: Bill Morgan > > >>To: editor@liberator.net ; billbeq@mediaone.net > > >>Cc: DWise1@aol.com > > >>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:19 PM > > >>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >> > > >> > > >>See Bill, I am winning again so he must regresst opersonal insults. > > >> > > >>I am still waiting for you to provideyour best explantion on the >Origin > >of > > >>Life Mist da Mark. > > >> > > >> > > >>>From: "Mark" > > >>>To: "Bill Morgan" , > > >>>CC: > > >>>Subject: Re: What's 'dog' spelled backwards? > > >>>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:03:35 -0500 > > >>> > > >>>Bill, I guess Jesus jokes are off limits but mother jokes are > >acceptable? > > >>>Spoken like a typical Christian hypocrite. > > >>> > > >>>If Christianity was never invented, life wouldn't be so humorous and > > >>>consequently so enjoyable. Sorry, a devil made me write that. > > >>> > > >>>= ) > > >>> > > >>>BTW, you people keep ignoring the websites I give you. Here they are > > >>>again. > > >>>Either you guys are too slow to be able to understand them or you are > > >>>simply > > >>>too intimidated by a challenge. Either way, I understand. > > >>> > > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/GodInside.html > > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/crevevo1.html > > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html > > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/digital.html > > >>>http://www.liberator.net/articles/StosselBelief0.html > > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/Hell.html > > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/ReligiousParrots.html > > >>>http://www.liberator.net/ulc/WhatControls.html > > >>> > > >>>Mark > > >>>The Liberator > > >>>E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >>>Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > >>> > > >> > > > >>_________________________________________________________________________ > > >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > >> > > >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > >>http://profiles.msn.com. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-za05.mx.aol.com (rly-za05.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.101]) by air-za04.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:04:04 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f249.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.249]) by rly-za05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:03:44 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:03:44 -0700 Received: from 152.163.201.73 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 03:03:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.201.73] From: "Bill Morgan" To: editor@liberator.net, billbeq@mediaone.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Subject: Re: I'm gonna get you sucka Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 03:03:44 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2000 03:03:44.0402 (UTC) FILETIME=[08363F20:01C033F9] ################################################ Subj: Mark twain knew of this Date: 11-Oct-00 20:06:56 Pacific Daylight Time From: billyjack1@hotmail.com (Bill Morgan) To: billbeq@mediaone.net, editor@liberator.net CC: DWise1@AOL.com Mark Twain sums up our two new reinds: It is not the parts of the Bible i don't understand that bothers me; it is the parts I do understand that bothers me. Bill, they know God exists, they just choose not ot honor God, give thanks to God or acknowledge God. Bill: please read Romans chapter 1, it teaches this >From: "Bill Bequette" >To: "Mark" , "Bill Morgan" >CC: >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:37:58 -0700 > >Read the word of GOD in the Bible then you will understand! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark > To: Bill Morgan ; billbeq@mediaone.net > Cc: DWise1@AOL.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:30 PM > Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > "I answered that already didn't you read it....mutations increase over >time, > thus back then there were few if any." > > What you fail to acknowledge is that a mutation is different from an > inherited genetic trait. > > "God made a nice clean defect free genetic code!" > > There is no such thing as a perfect genetic code so how could God create > such a thing? > > Mark > The Liberator > E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >From: "Mark" > >To: "Bill Bequette" , "Bill Morgan" > > > >CC: > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:34:44 -0500 > > > >Bill, then how do you explain Adam and Eve populating humankind in >light of > >defects caused by incestuous relations? > > > >Mark > >The Liberator > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Bill Bequette > >To: Mark ; Bill Morgan > >Cc: > >Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:22 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > >Mark, > >You answered your own question. Incestuous relationships result in >birth > >defects. That is God's answer. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mark > >To: Bill Morgan > >Cc: billbeq@mediaone.net ; DWise1@aol.com > > > >Date: Saturday, October 07, 2000 4:41 PM > >Subject: Re: Did God allow incestuous relations to populate the planet? > > > > > > >Bill Morgan , you wrote: > > > > > >"Please answer the question Mark: is incest wrong?" > > > > > >If the Christian God knew anything about science, it would not allow > > >incestuous relations due to the increased probability of birth >defects. > >But > > >why should we maintain that a mythical entity be knowledgeable of > >science? > > > > > >Mark > > >The Liberator > > >E-Mail: editor@liberator.net > > >Web Site: http://liberator.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (rly-zb01.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.1]) by air-zb05.mail.aol.com (v76_r1.8) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:06:56 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f55.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.55]) by rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:06:26 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:06:25 -0700 Received: from 152.163.201.73 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 03:06:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.201.73] From: "Bill Morgan" To: billbeq@mediaone.net, editor@liberator.net Cc: DWise1@AOL.com Subject: Mark twain knew of this Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 03:06:25 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2000 03:06:25.0328 (UTC) FILETIME=[68219B00:01C033F9] ################################################